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<blockquote data-quote="Erekose13" data-source="post: 3376607" data-attributes="member: 3387"><p>Hmm, that all makes a whole lotta sense. I'll need to review my own character's crafting then and see how it looks. As I said in my original thoughts, rereading it with that light (1 spell prerec = 1 roll no matter how many times that spell is on the scroll) really does make sense. Do you mind going through my own craft post and fixing it up? I want to make sure that I've got this down pat before messing other people up. I've added notes in bold, let me know if thats more like it.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=crafting]</p><p>[Level 1 Crafting]</p><p>@1st level 4ranks + 4mod +3feat +2tool +2class +2infusion = +17 UMD</p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: class not valid, total UMD @ L1 = +15</strong></p><p></p><p>Scroll 1 </p><p> - comprehend languages, disguise self, grease, command, detect evil</p><p>5 rolls DC 21 umd +17</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">Scroll 1, DC 21 per roll </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">(1d20+17=22, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">1d20+17=36, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">1d20+17=20,</a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">1d20+17=27, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082" target="_blank">1d20+17=21)</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829086" target="_blank">Scroll 1, 1 reroll. DC 21 </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829086" target="_blank">(1d20+17=23)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 2 AP to make it (1 auto success, 1 needed 2 or higher).</strong></p><p></p><p>scroll 2</p><p> - protection from evil, entangle, jump, speak with animals, bless weapon</p><p>5 rolls Dc 21 umd +17</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">Scroll 2, DC 21 per roll </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">(1d20+17=34, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">1d20+17=28, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">1d20+17=22, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">1d20+17=37, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084" target="_blank">1d20+17=24)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 1 AP to make it (auto pass with a roll of 1).</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>scroll 3</p><p> - lesser restoration, charm person, enlarge person, expeditious retreat</p><p>4 rolls DC 21 umd +17</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088" target="_blank">Scroll 3, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088" target="_blank">(1d20+17=37, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088" target="_blank">1d20+17=30, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088" target="_blank">1d20+17=32, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088" target="_blank">1d20+17=18)</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829090" target="_blank">Scroll 3, 1 reroll. DC 21 </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829090" target="_blank">(1d20+17=23)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, no AP required, all made it.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>scroll 4</p><p> - reduce person, rouse, resist energy, mount, shield, sleep</p><p>6 rolls DC 21 umd +17</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">Scroll 4, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">(1d20+17=31, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">1d20+17=37, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">1d20+17=29, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">1d20+17=22, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">1d20+17=35, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096" target="_blank">1d20+17=19)</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829098" target="_blank">Scroll 4, 1 reroll. DC 21 </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829098" target="_blank">(1d20+17=29)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 1 AP to make it (auto pass with a 1).</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Level 1 Crafting Notes:</strong> would've needed 4 AP to make the rolls.</p><p></p><p>[Level 2 Crafting]</p><p>@2nd level 5ranks + 4mod +3feat +2tool +2class +2 synergy +3infusion = +21 UMD for scrolls, +19 for potions.</p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: +2 from class incorrect, +19 for Scrolls, +17 for potions</strong></p><p></p><p>scroll 5</p><p> - cure light wounds x6</p><p>6 rolls DC 21 umd +21</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">Scroll 5, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">(1d20+21=31, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">1d20+21=26, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">1d20+21=24, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">1d20+21=33, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">1d20+21=35, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100" target="_blank">1d20+21=29)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: only one roll needed. 1st succeeded by a long shot.</strong></p><p></p><p>scroll 6</p><p>6 rolls DC 21 umd +21</p><p> - cure light wounds x4, mage armor x2</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">Scroll 6, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">(1d20+21=24, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">1d20+21=22, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">1d20+21=29, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">1d20+21=23, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">1d20+21=27, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102" target="_blank">1d20+21=36)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: Only need 2 rolls, with -2 UMD I'd have failed the second, but upon rerolling made it with the third.</strong></p><p></p><p>scroll 7</p><p> - magic missile x6</p><p>6 rolls DC 21 umd +21</p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">Scroll 7, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">(1d20+21=29, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">1d20+21=26, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">1d20+21=27, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">1d20+21=41, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">1d20+21=22, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104" target="_blank">1d20+21=26)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: Only needed 1 roll, made it.</strong></p><p></p><p>scroll 8</p><p> - mage armor x2, suggestion, alter self, heroism</p><p>2 rolls DC 21 umd +21</p><p>3 rolls DC 22 umd +21</p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829106" target="_blank">Scroll 8, DC 21 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829106" target="_blank">(1d20+21=36, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829106" target="_blank">1d20+21=30)</a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829108" target="_blank">Scroll 8, DC 22 per roll. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829108" target="_blank">(1d20+21=32, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829108" target="_blank">1d20+21=23, </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829108" target="_blank">1d20+21=33)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: only 1 roll for magic missile needed, made it. With -2 UMD I'd have failed alter self and would need a reroll.</strong></p><p></p><p>~~</p><p></p><p>potion 1</p><p>1 roll DC 21 umd +19</p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829110" target="_blank">Potion 1, DC 21. </a></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829110" target="_blank">(1d20+19=34)</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Notes: even with -2 UMD, made it.</strong></p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>So first off I've included the +2 for my Artisan Bonus and that will have to go. Looking over my rolls, that means I would've needed Action Points for first level and a reroll for Scroll 8 at second level.</p><p></p><p>Does that cover it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Erekose13, post: 3376607, member: 3387"] Hmm, that all makes a whole lotta sense. I'll need to review my own character's crafting then and see how it looks. As I said in my original thoughts, rereading it with that light (1 spell prerec = 1 roll no matter how many times that spell is on the scroll) really does make sense. Do you mind going through my own craft post and fixing it up? I want to make sure that I've got this down pat before messing other people up. I've added notes in bold, let me know if thats more like it. [sblock=crafting] [Level 1 Crafting] @1st level 4ranks + 4mod +3feat +2tool +2class +2infusion = +17 UMD [b]Notes: class not valid, total UMD @ L1 = +15[/b] Scroll 1 - comprehend languages, disguise self, grease, command, detect evil 5 rolls DC 21 umd +17 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829082]Scroll 1, DC 21 per roll (1d20+17=22, 1d20+17=36, 1d20+17=20, 1d20+17=27, 1d20+17=21)[/url] [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829086]Scroll 1, 1 reroll. DC 21 (1d20+17=23)[/url] [b]Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 2 AP to make it (1 auto success, 1 needed 2 or higher).[/b] scroll 2 - protection from evil, entangle, jump, speak with animals, bless weapon 5 rolls Dc 21 umd +17 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829084]Scroll 2, DC 21 per roll (1d20+17=34, 1d20+17=28, 1d20+17=22, 1d20+17=37, 1d20+17=24)[/url] [b]Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 1 AP to make it (auto pass with a roll of 1).[/b] scroll 3 - lesser restoration, charm person, enlarge person, expeditious retreat 4 rolls DC 21 umd +17 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829088]Scroll 3, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+17=37, 1d20+17=30, 1d20+17=32, 1d20+17=18)[/url] [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829090]Scroll 3, 1 reroll. DC 21 (1d20+17=23)[/url] [b]Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, no AP required, all made it.[/b] scroll 4 - reduce person, rouse, resist energy, mount, shield, sleep 6 rolls DC 21 umd +17 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829096]Scroll 4, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+17=31, 1d20+17=37, 1d20+17=29, 1d20+17=22, 1d20+17=35, 1d20+17=19)[/url] [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829098]Scroll 4, 1 reroll. DC 21 (1d20+17=29)[/url] [b]Notes: correct # of rolls made, but with -2 to the roll, I'd need to use 1 AP to make it (auto pass with a 1).[/b] [b]Level 1 Crafting Notes:[/b] would've needed 4 AP to make the rolls. [Level 2 Crafting] @2nd level 5ranks + 4mod +3feat +2tool +2class +2 synergy +3infusion = +21 UMD for scrolls, +19 for potions. [b]Notes: +2 from class incorrect, +19 for Scrolls, +17 for potions[/b] scroll 5 - cure light wounds x6 6 rolls DC 21 umd +21 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829100]Scroll 5, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+21=31, 1d20+21=26, 1d20+21=24, 1d20+21=33, 1d20+21=35, 1d20+21=29)[/url] [b]Notes: only one roll needed. 1st succeeded by a long shot.[/b] scroll 6 6 rolls DC 21 umd +21 - cure light wounds x4, mage armor x2 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829102]Scroll 6, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+21=24, 1d20+21=22, 1d20+21=29, 1d20+21=23, 1d20+21=27, 1d20+21=36)[/url] [b]Notes: Only need 2 rolls, with -2 UMD I'd have failed the second, but upon rerolling made it with the third.[/b] scroll 7 - magic missile x6 6 rolls DC 21 umd +21 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829104]Scroll 7, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+21=29, 1d20+21=26, 1d20+21=27, 1d20+21=41, 1d20+21=22, 1d20+21=26)[/url] [b]Notes: Only needed 1 roll, made it.[/b] scroll 8 - mage armor x2, suggestion, alter self, heroism 2 rolls DC 21 umd +21 3 rolls DC 22 umd +21 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829106]Scroll 8, DC 21 per roll. (1d20+21=36, 1d20+21=30)[/url] [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829108]Scroll 8, DC 22 per roll. (1d20+21=32, 1d20+21=23, 1d20+21=33)[/url] [b]Notes: only 1 roll for magic missile needed, made it. With -2 UMD I'd have failed alter self and would need a reroll.[/b] ~~ potion 1 1 roll DC 21 umd +19 [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=829110]Potion 1, DC 21. (1d20+19=34)[/url] [b]Notes: even with -2 UMD, made it.[/b] [/sblock] So first off I've included the +2 for my Artisan Bonus and that will have to go. Looking over my rolls, that means I would've needed Action Points for first level and a reroll for Scroll 8 at second level. Does that cover it? [/QUOTE]
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