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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8456832" data-attributes="member: 93670">There are a lot of knobs in levelup that the narrator can crank against that being done to a problematic degree that simply don't exist in o5e.  Here are a few good ones.  Check out AG347/348's lifestyle expenses.   Sure 2sp-5gp/day may not seem like much but adding income to a stronghold doubles the cost per squarefoot, getting a stronghold to cover wealthy lifestyle's base cost would be a 40000gp sink & take about 21 years to break even.  Living in squalor long term will impact who is willing to interact with you so there's a decent floor added to the break even point needed for poor quality stuff[spoiler="If one of my players wants to pursue the sit around making money route... GREAT!"][ATTACH=full]146720[/ATTACH][/spoiler]There are so many wonderful knobs that make it easy to credibly say the most terrifying phrase a narrator can say....specifically: "Are you sure you want to do do that."  Doing it even sets up fun campaign options that might not otherwise have been so easy to stake the party into the center ofSure you might be able to churn out a bunch of cheap armor & weapons for a peasant militia to rake in some quick coin with crafting, but high cost items tend to be purchased by people who expect to depend on it.  Now you dear player have helped create conditions for a war and surprise are also a military target.  If you are instead selling nonmilitary stuff there is going to be limited demand for rickety farm equipment & such once you meet the initial needs of the few hobbyists who just wanted to fiddle around a bit in the back yard.  Now you have a mountauin of finished goods with no buyers.  Worse still though you are known as a snakeoil salesman & need to recover your image somehow because some of it was given to $importantPeople as gifts by unsuspecting well wishers who assumed the respected adventurer bob's mark was good as his reputation as an adventurer. By association you've successfully trashed the prestige rating of everyone in the party,  I'm sure that could never be an issue though.Oh you want to have some custom crafted really nice item made with that pile of gold you made as a cut rate arms dealer known for causing the death of thousands due to faulty equipment in addition to getting personally involved in the war & maybe engaging in things like regicide?... yea... strange thing how all of the talented crafters seem to claim your request is beyond their capabilities & point you to someone else  they claim is better qualified to craft for someone of your fearsome reputation as if the  don't want to be known as the crafter who enabled your next scheme.Maybe you just want to sit around & make money reputably, that's fine & should be expected from time to time.  Doing that can have escalating lifestyle expenses though because your social circle is growing in quality as well as size (great!).  With that growth expectations for what a wealthy lifestyle entails for someone in your position keeps growing.  Some of those people are going to call in favors of their own & you've already been paid so hope you find cool stuff doing them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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