Crafting with special materials.

[Bront]

I don't see any numbers in the SRD, but does crafting special materials add to the craft DC beyond adding the masterwork component in cases where it is required?

 

[Nac_Mac_Feegle]

I think for craftign Masterworked items, your assumed to be using special materials, hence the straight gold cost.

If you go out and get the special materials (say a young dragon femur, and the branch from a treant to make a masterworked composite bow) you might ofset the actual gold cost to craft the item. But I dont think it affects the craft check in anyway, except perhaps needing less craft checks.

Then again the craft checks are there to calculate how many silvers worth of crafting you have done, so I doubt its even going to lower the number of rolls you need.

Feegle Out

 

[Cabral]

As far as I know, no. If you use mithral, your DC is the same as making a normal masterwork item. You'll still want a high crafting roll as the gp modifier for some of those special materials greatly increases the time to make them

 

[Twowolves]

As far as I know, no. If you use mithral, your DC is the same as making a normal masterwork item. You'll still want a high crafting roll as the gp modifier for some of those special materials greatly increases the time to make them

Ok, speaking of mithril. It says a weapon made of mithril weighs half as much as a steel weapon. So a 4lbs longsword would weigh 2lbs. And mithril costs something like 500gp/lb. So the mithril longsword would be 15gp (longsword) + 300gp (masterwork) + 1000gp (2lbs of mithril), correct? The Craft DC would be 15 for the sword, 20 for the masterwork, and then what for the mithril part? Wouldn't this mean crafting a mithril anything would take years?

 

[Aaron L]

Not to mention crafting a 100 pound sphere of gold...


Yeah... the crafting rules just arent very good.

 

[Cabral]

Maybe not. Since the masterwork portion is seperate (at least for a normal item) and has a higher DC, it might be faster ...
... now, my wifer for example, taking 10 would make 480 sp progress per week on the master work portion. That's not bad but it's not exactly fast either ...

However, I believe somewhere there was a rule that allowed you to hurry craft checks by increasing the DC by 10... which means as long as you can make that DC, you are cruising... (minimum roll of 30 times DC of 30 = 900 sp per week as opposed to 600 sp for a normal DC 20 with the same roll of 20)

 

[Twowolves]

900sp/week when you need 10,000sp just for the mithril. 13150sp total cost, right?

No time to do the math just now, but isn't that still a lot of time? /shrug

 

[Cabral]

Just count the mithral (Mithril is LotR) cost.
So it'd be done in about 11 weeks.

The worst offender is Adamantine full plate ... +15,000 gp so 150,000 sp

Or more than 150 weeks.

That's assuming your DM doesn't hand wave "behind the scenes" crafting ...
"what do you do while in town?"
"I find a smithy and forge adamantine full plate"
"Okay the cost is x, make your craft checks"
" 32 and 25 woot!"
"Okay, Bobhandiniir shows up at the tavern gimy and sweaty but wearing a pimpin set of admantine full plate"
"Grats!"
"Oh Yeah!"
"Don't Dwarves bathe?"

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

However, I believe somewhere there was a rule that allowed you to hurry craft checks by increasing the DC by 10...

It's in the Craft skill description.

Complete Adventurer goes one further, and says "Increase it by any integer multiple of 10 you want."

 

[Cabral]

I don't have Complete Adventurer but I'm wishing more and more that I did ... Anyone want to play Secret Santa?

Seriously though, I was thinking of making a similar HR that was any increment of 5.