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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Tree" data-source="post: 46369" data-attributes="member: 1455"><p>A lot of what I would or would not do different would depend on the character concept.</p><p></p><p>However, if you're asking for min-max advice, I would recommend a few changes.</p><p></p><p>- Wisdom is an unneccessary stat for bards. Bards already have good will saves, and perception skills isn't their forte, so you'd be better off putting that 14 in Con, and putting the 13 that was in Con into Strength, to be a bit better in combat.</p><p></p><p>- As other have pointed out, elves and humans make better bards than halfelves. If you're playing in the FR, sun elves are also a nice choice, as their Int bonus gives you more skill points and helps your bardic knowledge.</p><p></p><p>- Some must-have spells: Prestidigitation, Cat's Grace, Silence, Haste, Greater Magic Weapon, Improved Invisibility, and at least one healing spell. Also note that bards gain good enchantment spells at approximately the same level as wizards. Hold person, Charm monster, and suggestion are quite nice, especially if combined with Spell Focus (enchantment).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Tree, post: 46369, member: 1455"] A lot of what I would or would not do different would depend on the character concept. However, if you're asking for min-max advice, I would recommend a few changes. - Wisdom is an unneccessary stat for bards. Bards already have good will saves, and perception skills isn't their forte, so you'd be better off putting that 14 in Con, and putting the 13 that was in Con into Strength, to be a bit better in combat. - As other have pointed out, elves and humans make better bards than halfelves. If you're playing in the FR, sun elves are also a nice choice, as their Int bonus gives you more skill points and helps your bardic knowledge. - Some must-have spells: Prestidigitation, Cat's Grace, Silence, Haste, Greater Magic Weapon, Improved Invisibility, and at least one healing spell. Also note that bards gain good enchantment spells at approximately the same level as wizards. Hold person, Charm monster, and suggestion are quite nice, especially if combined with Spell Focus (enchantment). [/QUOTE]
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