"Creating" Mithral and/or Deep Crystal

[Inconsequenti-AL]

You could wish a non magical item of up to 25,000 GP. Although that's a hellishly expensive way to do it?

I'd probably allow limited wish to transmute normal metal into mithral (or deep crystal). Although anything more than 1000gp worth and I'd probably throw an additional xp cost on top of it. Or insist the base metal was as valuable as the mithral.

 

[Vuron]

True, however, in the the description of Mithral Golems and Adamantine Golems:
Mithral

Adamantine


So there is precedent, of a sort.
You may well need vastly more of the iron than mithral you'll be creating, but . . .

Precendent of a sort but you could likely say that the manual of mithral or adamantine golem contains special formula to assist in the transformation of iron to mithral.

The optimal solution is likely to use a plane shift spell to visit the plane of elemental earth where it's generally implied that jewels and precious metal are far more common (in many campaigns mithral and adamantine deposits are actually close to planar portals).

 

[geosapient]

Holy crap! That's a really terrible reason to kill things: "I need new armor"

Talk about meta-gaming...

That's the best reason to go out and kill things. You need new weapons and armor so you go out and kill things and take theirs. Then you sell what you can to a merchant/town/malitia group and buy what you want.

I understand that you are talking about the experience aspect of it and that killing things doesn't equal knowing how to transmute. But until sitting in a lab and playing around with all sorts of chemicals (because that is what your character does) generates a good amount of experience this is what has to be done to obtain the experience 'needed' to do things.

 

[Arkhandus]

Creating golems is different, as it uses other things beyond just Polymorph Any Object (that's just a part of the multi-step and multi-magic-infusing process of making a golem, and is not what makes the golems permanently mithral or whatever).

Polymorph Any Object has a duration of Permanent under the right conditions (and can't create mithral; only its specific use as part of the process for making mithral golems has any capacity to make mithral, and only because it's specified in that process and isn't the sum total of the process, merely one part of the magic applied; note how Wish is required too, frex, and the fact that it takes an item creation feat and an XP investment, as well). Durations of Permanent can be broken by dispelling and such.

Items made through True Creation are 100% normal and mundane, with no trace of magic or psionics; they are completely normal and irreversable (no Disjunction or Greater Dispelling or Null Psionics Field or whatnot is ever going to undo a True Creation item). True Creation has an Instantaneous duration, thus, it is not subject to dispelling, antimagic, or disjunctions. Its mystical effect is only in the initial moment and act of creating the material, and nothing more.

 

[jefgorbach]

Precendent of a sort but you could likely say that the manual of mithral or adamantine golem contains special formula to assist in the transformation of iron to mithral.

The optimal solution is likely to use a plane shift spell to visit the plane of elemental earth where it's generally implied that jewels and precious metal are far more common (in many campaigns mithral and adamantine deposits are actually close to planar portals).

Given the Manuals contain the special formula, would it not then be advisable and recommended a wizard could study the manual to research/decipher the process of using Polymorph Any Object in such a fashion outside of golem creation?

 

[ElectricDragon]

Yeah, just preceed the Polymorph Any Object spell with a properly worded Wish.

Ciao
Dave