Creature by Poll #8 - Astral Manes Discussion

[Knight Otu]

First off, the concept, then the poll results:

Astral Manes are CN positivie energy beings tend to manifest only as shafts of light which perice the darkness brought by the Raven Entitites. They have compulsion (possibly even psionic abilities) and will sometimes appear in the form of a dead relative in order to communicate* (irl 'Manes' iirc are spirits of benevolent ancestors)

very dexterous and highly magical they will be. They'll also be pretty smart and wise, but those attribute will be secondary.
They won't be strong or tough, though.

Astral manes certainly will be incorporeal, and should have a fear ability and spell-like abilities. A gaze attack is likely, and we might want to consider summoning and/or energy/ability drain/damage.

But before we continue, we need a size, then we can vote on the Hit Dice for the Astral Manes. Tonguez, if you are around, what size did you have in mind? I'd say Medium, but since you created the concept, it'll be up to you.

 

[dhaga]

I agree on medium. Of course, I also agree on having Tonguez make the final decision for size

 

[Tonguez]

I hadn't actually consdiered a size but yep medium sounds good

so
- lets say 8 foot (top end of medium) so they appear taller than humans (and most other PCs)

 

[Gez]

I would have seen them either very tall (Large or Huge) and thin (they're shafts of light, after all), or very small (Tiny)...

 

[Tonguez]

I would have seen them either very tall (Large or Huge) and thin (they're shafts of light, after all), or very small (Tiny)...

Yeah that pretty much how I concieved them - very tall and very thin - but does 'large/huge' cover that? The volume of these creatures is not 'huge' (they probably would fill more than the 'five foor sqaure') but their height extends up into oblivion...

um

 

[Knight Otu]

There are a few creatures that are smaller or larger than their size category would indicate (the minotaur is among them, I believe). So I'd say we go for an effective size of Large. Sounds ok?

 

[Tonguez]

There are a few creatures that are smaller or larger than their size category would indicate (the minotaur is among them, I believe). So I'd say we go for an effective size of Large. Sounds ok?

Yep

 

[Knight Otu]

A preliminary statblock:

Astral Manes
Large Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Incorporeal)
Hit Dice: 4d8 (18 hp)
Initiative:
Speed: Fly 50 ft. (perfect) (10 squares)?
Armor Class: 19 (+6 Dex, +4 deflection, -1 size), touch 19, flat-footed 13
Base Attack/Grapple: +4/-
Attack:
Full Attack:
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10? ft.
Special Attacks:
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft, incorporeal
Saves: Fort 4 Ref 4+6 Will 4
Abilities: Str -, Dex 23, Con 10, Int 16, Wis 15, Cha 18
Skills:
Feats:

Environment: Astral/Positive Energy Plane?
Organization: ?
Challenge Rating: ?
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always chaotic neutral
Advancement: 5-10 HD (Large); 11-12 HD (Huge)?
Level Adjustment: ?