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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5733631" data-attributes="member: 57383">That Strength seems very low. I suppose it fits with the "Of the four animal lords detailed here, the hawk lord fights most weakly in human form". Her Hawk form is presumably a lot tougher.We could also use a Giant Eagle (Str 18, Dex 17, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 10) and Lion (Str 21, Dex 17, Con 15) for the comparison. That's -3 Str & Con, the same Dex, and +2 Wisdom.How about -2 Str and +2 Wis, resulting in Str 16, Dex 29, Con 18, Int 19, Wis 19, Cha 25?</blockquote>