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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6891050" data-attributes="member: 57383">Okay, reading the above two entries I quickly noticed a few things which leads me to suspect this monster needs a lot more tweaking than I first thought. Maybe we should consider rebuilding it from scratch.Firstly, Ooze is definitely the wrong Type! My first thought was Vermin, for obvious reasons, however I had second thought after my next observations.Secondly, the original creature has Magic Resistance and has a &quot;Very low&quot; intelligence rather than being Mindless. That, in combination with its creation of magical honey says Magical Beast to me.Thirdly, the &quot;Engulf&quot; special attack of the original looks a bit superfluous for a 3.5 swarm, since it functions very similarly to a combination of a 3.5 swarm's Swarm Attack and Distraction abilities. However it has a few interesting elements like the ability to block vision and halve movement speed.Fourthly, it's need the Flyby Attack or Improved Flyby Attack for it to &quot;Whiz-bang&quot; its opponents like it's described as doing, otherwise it'd have to attack at the end of its move like normal. Actually maybe we should give it a Special Attack that's similar to a Flyby Attack instead with some of the elements from the original's Engulf attack? It's worth considering.Statwise, I think we can use the Hellwasp Swarm and Locust Swarm as models.Fifthly, what size are we making it? The original creature is vulnerable to weapon damage, but if we make it a Diminutive Swarm like its size would indicate it'd be immune to weapons.Hmm… upon reflection I think we ought to have these statted as individual creatures AND a swarm so we can cover both bases. Making it an individual creature would be closer to the original monster.So shall I whip up a Working Draft with a first shot at the creature to give us something to argue about?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6891050, member: 57383"] Okay, reading the above two entries I quickly noticed a few things which leads me to suspect this monster needs a lot more tweaking than I first thought. Maybe we should consider rebuilding it from scratch. Firstly, Ooze is definitely the wrong Type! My first thought was Vermin, for obvious reasons, however I had second thought after my next observations. Secondly, the original creature has Magic Resistance and has a "Very low" intelligence rather than being Mindless. That, in combination with its creation of magical honey says Magical Beast to me. Thirdly, the "Engulf" special attack of the original looks a bit superfluous for a 3.5 swarm, since it functions very similarly to a combination of a 3.5 swarm's Swarm Attack and Distraction abilities. However it has a few interesting elements like the ability to block vision and halve movement speed. Fourthly, it's need the Flyby Attack or Improved Flyby Attack for it to "Whiz-bang" its opponents like it's described as doing, otherwise it'd have to attack at the end of its move like normal. Actually maybe we should give it a Special Attack that's similar to a Flyby Attack instead with some of the elements from the original's Engulf attack? It's worth considering. Statwise, I think we can use the Hellwasp Swarm and Locust Swarm as models. Fifthly, what size are we making it? The original creature is vulnerable to weapon damage, but if we make it a Diminutive Swarm like its size would indicate it'd be immune to weapons. Hmm… upon reflection I think we ought to have these statted as individual creatures AND a swarm so we can cover both bases. Making it an individual creature would be closer to the original monster. So shall I whip up a Working Draft with a first shot at the creature to give us something to argue about? [/QUOTE]

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