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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8118162" data-attributes="member: 57383">Upon reflection, the &quot;Barbarian&quot; calculations might be exaggerated since many of the attackers won't have mighty composite bows.&nbsp; An ordinary bow or crossbow will do roughly half the Barbarian's 1d8+4 arrow damage and might not even have iterative attacks.How about we compromise and make the base AC 18, the halfway point between the 3.0 Catalogue version's 14 and the current 22?Currently I favour 25% for the ## in &quot;inflicting ##% of the afanc's hit points&quot;.I'm also thinking we could lower the deep cover cap from +12 to AC and +6 to Reflex saves to +8/+4 to match the bonuses from improved cover.&nbsp; I only used +12 in the Rough Draft since that's what the 2E AD&amp;D version employed.&nbsp; We can also use the improved cover rule &quot;A creature with this improved cover effectively gains improved evasion against any attack to which the Reflex save bonus applies&quot;:For every round the afanc spends circling it gains a +2 bonus to AC and a +1 bonus on Reflex saves against creatures above the waterline due to its increasingly deep cover of water, culminating in improved cover after four rounds (+8 to AC, +8 to Reflex saves, effectively gains improved evasion against any attack to which the Reflex save bonus applies).That way an 8th level party have some chance of stopping a circling afanc from whirlpooling with missile weapons but can't trivially knock it out of circling with an area-of-effect lightning bolt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8118162, member: 57383"] Upon reflection, the "Barbarian" calculations might be exaggerated since many of the attackers won't have mighty composite bows. An ordinary bow or crossbow will do roughly half the Barbarian's 1d8+4 arrow damage and might not even have iterative attacks. How about we compromise and make the base AC 18, the halfway point between the 3.0 Catalogue version's 14 and the current 22? Currently I favour 25% for the ## in "inflicting ##% of the afanc's hit points". I'm also thinking we could lower the deep cover cap from +12 to AC and +6 to Reflex saves to +8/+4 to match the bonuses from improved cover. I only used +12 in the Rough Draft since that's what the 2E AD&D version employed. We can also use the improved cover rule "A creature with this improved cover effectively gains improved evasion against any attack to which the Reflex save bonus applies": [INDENT]For every round the afanc spends circling it gains a +2 bonus to AC and a +1 bonus on Reflex saves against creatures above the waterline due to its increasingly deep cover of water, culminating in improved cover after four rounds (+8 to AC, +8 to Reflex saves, effectively gains improved evasion against any attack to which the Reflex save bonus applies).[/INDENT] That way an 8th level party have some chance of stopping a circling afanc from whirlpooling with missile weapons but can't trivially knock it out of circling with an area-of-effect [I]lightning bolt[/I]. [/QUOTE]

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