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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8273331" data-attributes="member: 57383">Right, the only remaining question is the Challenge Rating.The 3.0 version's Challenge Rating 14 is too high for them.&nbsp; Just compare it to the SRD's Purple Worm - the Afanc is rather similar statwise but is slightly weaker in AC and hit points and it doesn't have the Worm's Poison attack.And a Purple Worm is CR 12.The Afanc's Ref and Will saves are a bit better than the Worm's though, which is useful.Contrariwise, a Dire Shark is similar conceptually and is almost as lethal while being CR 9.&nbsp; (That may be a poor comparison since I consider the Dire Shark to be very badly designed.)Heck, a Tyrannosaurus is CR 8 and isn't that much weaker - then again, it's badly designed too (my Cleon Special™ <a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/7947749" target="_blank">Tyrannosaurus Redux</a> &quot;fixes the issues&quot; but is pretty definitely under-CRd. I should really make it a CR 9 or maybe even 10 after I jazzed it up).So I'd guesstimate the Afanc as being CR 11 or 12?Let's call it CR 11 for the sake of argument.That means I can tweak my proposed text from:Afanc can tolerate brackish waters and swim up large rivers to lay their eggs, which are a prized delicacy in some nations (a complete clutch of roughly a hundred 1-pound eggs is typically worth 10% to 60% of a single CR 11 creature's treasure per encounter value of 7,500 gp, or 750 to 4,500 gp. The eggs are bulky and somewhat fragile but are easily preserved in a barrel of brine, vinegar, or brandy).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8273331, member: 57383"] Right, the only remaining question is the Challenge Rating. The 3.0 version's Challenge Rating 14 is too high for them. Just compare it to the SRD's Purple Worm - the Afanc is rather similar statwise but is slightly weaker in AC and hit points and it doesn't have the Worm's Poison attack. And a Purple Worm is CR 12. The Afanc's Ref and Will saves are a bit better than the Worm's though, which is useful. Contrariwise, a Dire Shark is similar conceptually and is [I]almost[/I] as lethal while being CR 9. (That may be a poor comparison since I consider the Dire Shark to be very badly designed.) Heck, a [I]Tyrannosaurus[/I] is CR 8 and isn't that much weaker - then again, it's badly designed too (my Cleon Special™ [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/7947749'][I]Tyrannosaurus[/I] Redux[/URL][/B] "fixes the issues" but is pretty definitely under-CRd. I should really make it a CR 9 or [I]maybe[/I] even 10 after I jazzed it up). So I'd guesstimate the Afanc as being CR 11 or 12? Let's call it CR 11 for the sake of argument. That means I can tweak my proposed text from: Afanc can tolerate brackish waters and swim up large rivers to lay their eggs, which are a prized delicacy in some nations (a complete clutch of roughly a hundred 1-pound eggs is typically worth 10% to 60% of a single CR 11 creature's treasure per encounter value of 7,500 gp, or 750 to 4,500 gp. The eggs are bulky and somewhat fragile but are easily preserved in a barrel of brine, vinegar, or brandy). [/QUOTE]

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