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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeajea" data-source="post: 2559904" data-attributes="member: 37238">You are, I take it, talking about my characters?  If you pay attention, there are only two, and they are both weakened very much in the emporium. They always try to avoid fights there. As for why they would come to the CRT on Greyhawk... well, they wouldn't. That's the simple answer. But as a player who likes his characters, I don't have an alternative - the CRT is where it is, ditto the emporium, and though I don't always use these rooms as they are 'meant' to be used, I do so on a good basis - it's quite difficult to.Amen. I play an Avatar. I understand your grievances with people who play Gods badly, and Godly beings and Demon Princes and so forth, badly, but... limiting the types of characters that can come onto this site and have fun isn't the way forwards. Obviously, I would be against such a thing as my main character is an Avatar of Tymora (a male Avatar, no less... gasp, shock, horror, setting rules have been broken!). But what you suggest, Fen, would not work, because the provisos we have at the moment don't work. I don't want to see the WizOs becoming even stricter. I want to see people like you and me making an effort to improve other roleplayers. Why not RP there, then? Why try to improve this site? That sort of system is obviously the type you prefer, but FFRP is not about that, is it? In a sense, FFRP is a setting-less system. What I mean is, it *cannot* be used with a specific setting. But we have to have earth beneath our feet, so on Oerth the 'Roads is. However, What, then, friend? That *is* an elitist view. Simple as. And of course you would say the same for other settings, and such an approach suits many people. I agree with you that this chat site doesn't work as it stands now, but it cannot improve to the level you want without changing from FFRP to dice gaming.Ironically, I think that this approach manages to chase many people away because many people get annoyed by the lower standards of RP that go on as a result of a less strict approach. The less good RPers themselves tend to leave, too, along with the better RPers, as a result of the interactions between these two sets of people. The site looses out overall. I would say, even, that Wizards doesn't get what she wants - to encourage more players.But what can the WizOs do? In all seriousness, it seems to me that they have an almost thankless job, until recently didn't get much by way of payment (and now... who knows?), and they get to constantly be heckled as the 'bad guys' by both us (making demands for changes and never being happy with what we have... anything to avoid making an actual effort ourselves to encourage good RP ourselves... Eddie's opinion 'if you don't like it, ignore it' speaks volumes there, I think), by both us and people who are semi-gamers who like to godmode and try to be the most important person in the room (resulting in cliques... non? We don't like to just hand importance to any old person, that would devalue the meaning of 'importance'. So we ignore these people, eh?).Ahh, but what the hell. This debate is getting boring. I know what I think about this site, and it's... not good. I've spent no less than two hours trying to make this post. It seems to me that we spend a lot of effort on things like this, but when is the last time I saw some storylines thread working out? Come on, people, this isn't the place for all this energy. Let's get positive and get the evil out to play, eh?</blockquote>

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