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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenmarel" data-source="post: 2559923">To answer the question about trying to forbid or make it harder for certain races.....In a way I wouldn't mind one bit if they were but that wasn't the main point of the original post but a way of showing examples later.I started back in the AOL days myself after I completed my tour in the Marine Corps.  I remember that there used to be a disclosure saying you had to be at least 13 to come to the chat site and if you weren't and found out later you would be banned.  I happen to remember that several of the players actually did try to get the setting changed to Krynn though a very unsuccessful and short lived attempt.  I don't think that if someone has been around from the beginning or just a few months has any bearing what so ever on the discussion at hand.  Yes us "old fogies" have seen alot more than the newer players but throwing around time on site as a way to make it seem as an opinion must be right is the wrong way to go.  That is why I don't do it though some would say I have every right to do so.  I didn't mean that last bit as a flame of any kind to any single person so please only take it as the advice I was offering it as.I sincerely believe that if any OFFICIAL setting is used then the rules of the setting should be enforced.  We might have a form of FFRP here BUT when one of the rooms is D&D setting with set rules they should be followed.  When they aren't it isn't Greyhawk that we are playing in but a very very sad imitation of it.  Does that limit creativity?  Yes but for the most part if a very positive way.  On the other hand it makes for even more creativity in the back stories of the characters.  A shift of attention from one aspect of the character to another.  In my opinion a shift from one of the least important aspects to one of the most important aspects.Even the settings we have now could be for the most part would be "better" in many ways if there was stricter adherence to the setting and enforcement of the setting what ever they might be.  Many think that stricter enforcement isn't a good thing though many think it is.  Mature role players(note I said role not roll) realize the rules and enforcement of them bring a setting more to life and with a sense of quasi realism.  When the rules aren't enforced you don't have a setting but a poorly executed idea with no real shape or form.  I've been to several chat sites that strictly adhere to the rules set for by their respective gaming systems.  When you log into those sites they have many more players logged on and happily roleplaying their characters with a tenth of the strife or dissention compared to the FFRP sites that I have been to.  I know that many will view what I have said as an elitist attitude towards D&D and its settings.  I would be saying the same thing if one of the settings was Shadowrun, VTM, Werewolf, Mage, Changling, Cyberpunk 2020, Wheel of Time or any of the other great role playing games out there.  When a setting is made into a chat room the rules of the setting should be followed to ensure the integrity of the system or setting.  No I'm not saying you should have to roll dice to see if you can walk across the floor without stumbling, that would be roll playing which I hate both online and in table top play.</blockquote>

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