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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cbwjm" data-source="post: 8084729" data-attributes="member: 6788732">Okay, i might be working it out okay then, I've been making new vassals rather than granting additional titles to my current ones. I might need to check their number of counties and see if I'm giving to many counties to them which bumps up their power too much. When granting duchies, they have to have a county to rule as well, I'm trying to limit it to 1 county per duchy so they don't get too big. Others dukes I think I inherited when I became king so they already had a lot of power.While I was still a duke of a single duchy, I helped the king in a war. Must have done a good job since he made a whole host of his vassals mine. It was a little crazy when that war ended, i gained an incredible amount of power which I think also helped set me up for taking over the kingdom.</blockquote>