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Crusader Kings III

Zardnaar

Legend
Deus Vult!!!

Back in 2012 I bought CK2 more or less on release. Generally a fan of Paradox Interactive and many many hours have gone into CK2, EUIV, HoI2 and Stellaris.

Has anyone bought CK3 yet? I have not but are thinking of getting it soon. I've heard it's more of an RPG with a basic morality system.

Reviews are also good.
 

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cbwjm

Hero
I'm thinking of getting it because I've heard the game play is a little easier to get to grips with compared to CK2. Didn't actually realise it was out yet.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I'm thinking of getting it because I've heard the game play is a little easier to get to grips with compared to CK2. Didn't actually realise it was out yet.
CK2 was easy enough on release. They changed it so much though you kinda get lost if you're not playing frequently.
 
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cbwjm

Hero
CK2 was easy enough on release. They changed it so much though you kinda get list if you're not playing frequently.
That was me, I didn't play it enough that I was lost. Looking at steam reviews it looks like there is still a lot of that but the UI is apparently better and some of the features around lifestyle sounds interesting. Been so long since I played CK2 I can't even recall if that was an older feature or new.

Actually uninstalled CK2 today thinking that if I'm playing any CK it will be 3.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
That was me, I didn't play it enough that I was lost. Looking at steam reviews it looks like there is still a lot of that but the UI is apparently better and some of the features around lifestyle sounds interesting. Been so long since I played CK2 I can't even recall if that was an older feature or new.

Actually uninstalled CK2 today thinking that if I'm playing any CK it will be 3.
I bought mist of the DLC late and for cheap so missed a lot.

Haven't played much as Republics, Vikings, India or Islam.
 

cbwjm

Hero
Welp, I bought it. Let's see if i can do better with this one rather than previous grand strategy games.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Welp, I bought it. Let's see if i can do better with this one rather than previous grand strategy games.
Nice. I started a CK II game as the Duke of aquitaine in 10th century.
Got sick, ended up as eunuch with only a single heir so went to elective monarchy and aquired some lands to make a nephew and and cousin counts to expand the bloodline.

Meh ruler and queens available but a nephew or something ended up inheriting as I didn't get my preferred heir.

Gonna try and seize Egypt in a crusade or inherit France. Or maybe use factions.
 

cbwjm

Hero
Nice. I started a CK II game as the Duke of aquitaine in 10th century.
Got sick, ended up as eunuch with only a single heir so went to elective monarchy and aquired some lands to make a nephew and and cousin counts to expand the bloodline.

Meh ruler and queens available but a nephew or something ended up inheriting as I didn't get my preferred heir.

Gonna try and seize Egypt in a crusade or inherit France. Or maybe use factions.
Still no idea what I'm doing (well I guess some idea). Started a game as Sigurd and formed a duchy just before I died to see my realm split up between my two sons. Naturally, my heir was the worst of the two. Time to murder my half brother and claim his realm i guess.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Still no idea what I'm doing (well I guess some idea). Started a game as Sigurd and formed a duchy just before I died to see my realm split up between my two sons. Naturally, my heir was the worst of the two. Time to murder my half brother and claim his realm i guess.
That's your succession law, it will be some type of gavelkind. Basically your heirs split the realm between them.
 

cbwjm

Hero
I will definitely be looking to change that. I just need to find out how. The UI seems easier to get around but so much seems to be happening. It wasn't until the game pointed it out that I realised there were buttons to look at the culture map and the religion map. I'd been playing for quite some time too.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I will definitely be looking to change that. I just need to find out how. The UI seems easier to get around but so much seems to be happening. It wasn't until the game pointed it out that I realised there were buttons to look at the culture map and the religion map. I'd been playing for quite some time too.
I'm going off CKII here idk how to change succession law in III.

Messed up my game, french Duke, Kings a heretic and the first crusade was called on France. I had enough piety to change the target but Egypt wasn't an option. Thought I joined the crusade but looks like I defended my liege by mistake.

I went to elective monarchy in the 10th century which seems a lot harder to get what you want than it used to be.
 

cbwjm

Hero
I formed a kingdom. I guess that's good? It did let me change the rules of succession to Scandinavian elective so I hope my small kingdom won't be carved up when I die.

Seems a large part of this game is essentially me going "There I go, getting all stressed again."
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I formed a kingdom. I guess that's good? It did let me change the rules of succession to Scandinavian elective so I hope my small kingdom won't be carved up when I die.

Seems a large part of this game is essentially me going "There I go, getting all stressed again."
Haven't played but stress afaik is caused by playing against type.

Eg if you are cruel and don't pick cruel option you get stress. Get enough stress you need to relieve it in some way eg drinking.

Not sure what the effects of forming a kingdom are in CK3. In CK2 it's more prestige, dukes are your vassals and you get claims etc in your area.

Good thing about CK is it's hard to actually get wiped out. Emperor might end up a duke or count but you can usually hang onto your core.

Exceptions being Mongols, holy wars, Aztecs via sunset invasion.,
 

cbwjm

Hero
Haven't played but stress afaik is caused by playing against type.

Eg if you are cruel and don't pick cruel option you get stress. Get enough stress you need to relieve it in some way eg drinking.

Not sure what the effects of forming a kingdom are in CK3. In CK2 it's more prestige, dukes are your vassals and you get claims etc in your area.

Good thing about CK is it's hard to actually get wiped out. Emperor might end up a duke or count but you can usually hang onto your core.

Exceptions being Mongols, holy wars, Aztecs via sunset invasion.,
Stress is definitely playing against type, but sometimes the traits for your child that you can choose are really good. I found the various decisions that I can make to relieve stress, things like going on a hunt (did nothing for my previous king since he was lazy) or throwing a feast.

I think I'm slowly getting to grips with the game, still a lot to unpack but the good thing is that they tell you the issues. Things like too many duchies so hand some over to others, etc.

My heir inherited the kingdom and now only controls the kingdom. I feel like I should have granted him a duchy as well so that he ends up with both. I've been conquering and converting people to my way of life/religion, turns out that Iceland is all norse but also all catholic so there are a few conflicts there that I'm trying to sort out.

I'm actually thinking of trying to start a holy war, there are some sacred sites in europe that are controlled by other people that I might see if I can take back.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Stress is definitely playing against type, but sometimes the traits for your child that you can choose are really good. I found the various decisions that I can make to relieve stress, things like going on a hunt (did nothing for my previous king since he was lazy) or throwing a feast.

I think I'm slowly getting to grips with the game, still a lot to unpack but the good thing is that they tell you the issues. Things like too many duchies so hand some over to others, etc.

My heir inherited the kingdom and now only controls the kingdom. I feel like I should have granted him a duchy as well so that he ends up with both. I've been conquering and converting people to my way of life/religion, turns out that Iceland is all norse but also all catholic so there are a few conflicts there that I'm trying to sort out.

I'm actually thinking of trying to start a holy war, there are some sacred sites in europe that are controlled by other people that I might see if I can take back.
Not sure how it's changed with CK2 but holy wars can bite you on the ass.

You might end up fighting most of that religions rulers.
 

cbwjm

Hero
Not sure how it's changed with CK2 but holy wars can bite you on the ass.

You might end up fighting most of that religions rulers.
Good to know, maybe I'll wait on that, build up my kingdom a bit more. I'm wanting to conquer Denmark, really messed that one up earlier and went to war for a single county instead of the country. Afterwards, during the war I was like "Why, why did I select that, the option to take Denmark was right there!"
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Good to know, maybe I'll wait on that, build up my kingdom a bit more. I'm wanting to conquer Denmark, really messed that one up earlier and went to war for a single county instead of the country. Afterwards, during the war I was like "Why, why did I select that, the option to take Denmark was right there!"
Do they still have cities, temple, castles etc on the provinces?

If you develop your lands right a powerful Duke is richer/more powerful than monarchs espicially if you swing the other duchy's to support you.
 

cbwjm

Hero
Do they still have cities, temple, castles etc on the provinces?

If you develop your lands right a powerful Duke is richer/more powerful than monarchs espicially if you swing the other duchy's to support you.
Each county has holdings that you can build like in CK2, though I was in the early ages in Norse regions and didn't seem to be able to build any others though I could develop my initial holdings, I might try starting in the UK and see if i can build things up there.
 

cbwjm

Hero
Oh, I also took over Denmark, had everything lined up so that my son would inherit both kingdoms, then he died, my court physician accidentally killed him.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Oh, I also took over Denmark, had everything lined up so that my son would inherit both kingdoms, then he died, my court physician accidentally killed him.
Sometimes it's not an accident. I don't employ ones with negative traits no matter how high their skill is in CK2.

Having intergenerational plans fall apart happens a lot. I've gone from count to emperor in 1 generation but never been able to repeat it.

I'm crap at internal politics, easier to ally foreign powers and over throw your liege that way.
 

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