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<blockquote data-quote="Obly99" data-source="post: 8882818" data-attributes="member: 7035194"><p>I quite agree on this topic. PS: the bonus of +4 Str of an Orc or +2 Con of a Dwarf is a racial bonus, not an untyped. "A racial bonus comes from the culture a particular creature was brought up in or because of innate characteristics of that type of creature. If a creature’s race changes (for instance, if it dies and is reincarnated), it loses all racial bonuses it had in its previous form."</p><p>And here the comic stuff begins</p><p>As an example I will post the Bard Shensen from the AP Hell's Rebels</p><p><strong>"Reincarnated</strong> Shensen was born a drow noble but was reincarnated into an aquatic half-elf; she retains her +2 bonuses to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma from her birth heritage, and a +2 bonus to Dexterity from her current incarnation. She also retains proficiency with the hand crossbow and poison use, but rarely uses such weapons or tactics. She’s lost all other drow abilities as the result of the reincarnation."</p><p>And the Circus continues gentlemen! As a RAW she should lose <strong>ALL</strong> bonuses but apparently she only loses the physical ones by swapping them for those of the new race. Another embarrassing moment of RAW against RAI. RAW reincarnation makes you change all the bonuses, RAI changes only the physiques (as it should be seen that only the body changes). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Moral of the story? If RAW sucks (yes, I'm looking at you, naval combat and caravan rules), apply common sense and some homebrews.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obly99, post: 8882818, member: 7035194"] I quite agree on this topic. PS: the bonus of +4 Str of an Orc or +2 Con of a Dwarf is a racial bonus, not an untyped. "A racial bonus comes from the culture a particular creature was brought up in or because of innate characteristics of that type of creature. If a creature’s race changes (for instance, if it dies and is reincarnated), it loses all racial bonuses it had in its previous form." And here the comic stuff begins As an example I will post the Bard Shensen from the AP Hell's Rebels [B]"Reincarnated[/B] Shensen was born a drow noble but was reincarnated into an aquatic half-elf; she retains her +2 bonuses to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma from her birth heritage, and a +2 bonus to Dexterity from her current incarnation. She also retains proficiency with the hand crossbow and poison use, but rarely uses such weapons or tactics. She’s lost all other drow abilities as the result of the reincarnation." And the Circus continues gentlemen! As a RAW she should lose [B]ALL[/B] bonuses but apparently she only loses the physical ones by swapping them for those of the new race. Another embarrassing moment of RAW against RAI. RAW reincarnation makes you change all the bonuses, RAI changes only the physiques (as it should be seen that only the body changes). ;) Moral of the story? If RAW sucks (yes, I'm looking at you, naval combat and caravan rules), apply common sense and some homebrews. [/QUOTE]
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