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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9455324" data-attributes="member: 23751">I thought about that, but with Elric few Elric exceptions, like Elric, most of them are heroes of legend, in the mythology for heroic deeds.I started playing 1e in 1983 and we were there already, so I think a bit before the mid 80's.No, not just LG.  If my neutral PC runs into a burning building to save some orphans and then runs back in to save the headmaster's rum, that's heroic.  I think risk of harm or death to help another, even if there is some reward in it for you in the end, is still heroic in D&D terms.Yeah.  And damage.  First, you can kill a dragon with a piece of metal that's not even long enough to pierce its hide.  That's another heroic addition. Second, monsters that outweigh you by several tons don't just smoosh you with one hit, even if you have 100 hit points.Yep.  And the hit point section itself mentions the following..."It is preposterous to state such an assumption, for if we are to assume that a man is killed by a sword thrust which does 4 hit points of damage, we must similarly assume that a hero could, on the average, withstand five such thrusts before being slain! Why then the increase in hit points? Because these reflect both the actual physical ability of the character to withstand damage - as indicated by constitution bonuses- and a commensurate increase in such areas as skill in combat and similar life-or-death situations, the "sixth sense" which warns the individual of some otherwise unforeseen events, sheer luck, and the fantastic provisions of magical protections and/or divine protection."Heck, it's even in the economics section."The economic systems of areas beyond the more active campaign areas can be viably based on lesser wealth only until the stream of loot begins to pour outwards into them. While it is possible to reduce treasure in these area to some extent so as to prolong the period of lower costs, what kind of a dragon hoard, for example, doesn't have gold and gems? It is simply more heroic for players to have their characters swaggering around with pouches full of gems and tossing out gold pieces than it is for them to have coppers. Heroic fantasy is made of fortunes and king's ransoms in lootgained most cleverly and bravely and lost in a twinkling by various means - thievery, gambling, debauchery, gift-giving, bribes, and so forth. The "reality" AD&D seeks to create through role playing is that of the mythical heroes such as Conan, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Kothar, Elric, and their ilk. When treasure is spoken of, it is more stirring when participants know it to be TREASURE!"</blockquote>

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