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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 6260473" data-attributes="member: 98255">The rules compendium is great. It's become my main reference at the table besides my DM screen. I felt that the DM book was pretty terrible overall (and the binding quality is also very sketchy).I loved the addition of the E classes and what they did for the game; variety is the spice of life, and all that, and while the duplication was annoying, I mostly ignored all the fluff anyway.Post-HotF*, I found the material to be hit or miss; Heroes of Shadow was a giant disappointment, but I loved Heroes of the Feywild. Mordenkainen's was good as well, and probably how things should have been from the start. The Monster Vault books were both excellent as well. The adventures published during this time were some of the best the edition has seen as well, IMO (Reavers of Harkenwold and Madness at Gardmore Abbey come to mind).To tie this in with the main theme of the thread, if there were a hypothetical 4.5, I'd like to see the presentation take a blend of the two approaches. The small-format Rules Compendium is great, and the fact that it's portable is a definite plus. I realize that packaging things into a format that deviates from the PHB/DMG/MM prardigm will be a hard sell to some, but I think it's a change worth making. The PHB is fine and should contain all the basics, but I'd leave the magical items and whatnot for the DM side. The DMG should contain mostly advice, and perhaps optional rules to use at the campaign level, but the RC would contain everything you need to have to run the game *mechanically* - all the "operative" crunch of how the game works; leave the player stuff in the PHB, and the DM-stuff (like treasure) in the DMG, though perhaps treasure tables and XP awards are fine.That was a little more run-on than I intended.</blockquote>

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