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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9045217" data-attributes="member: 59057">Have you played 3e?Damage spells were so underpowered, barely scratching fighters and so on, that save or die/suck was the best way to play. I can see going down to 7d6. fewer than that and it is not worth the slot more often than not.Remember that hitpoints inflated since AD&D 2e where the spell did 5d6 to 10d6 damage. Wizards had only 1d4 hp and a bonus to hp of +0 more often than not. So 5d6 vs 5d4 hp was quite ok. 5d6 vs 6+ 4d6+10 hp does not look that good. That said, I could see a overall reduction of HP for monsters. Then going down to 6d6 might be ok.The large area is a hindrance more often than it is a boon.</blockquote>