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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonsbane" data-source="post: 8155864" data-attributes="member: 6775188"><p>What jgsugden said. Happened in my games. I even tried to not up the villains and monsters but the PCs became bored. Then a battle that challenged the optimized PCs almost killed the rest. Opto PCs barely scratched. These are players new to my table that I skipped restrictions on as they were new (allowed single level dips, allowed a strange race, allowed a UA class). I wont skip my house rules again.</p><p></p><p>As far as the video and my personal thoughts . . . while RP and powergaming are not exclusive, they certainly are not common friends. Some quotes from my tables over the last 30 years: </p><p>1) What race has CHA bonus? / Um, do you have a PC concept in mind? / Yes, an elf but if they don;t have a CHA bonus I will play whatever does. / Ojo </p><p>2) I think I will dip into Hexblade 1 level. / Why? / For the bonus stuff. / What patron do you have in mind? / Eh I won't really even mention it doesn't matter . . . </p><p>3) I have a great concept! A Fighter with this feat and that feat and... / Is the concept a RP one? I toned down GWF and Sharpshooter in the house rules... / OK I have another concept! </p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, nothing wrong with PGing (no hate here) but to say both commonly exist together is disingenuous, perhaps players can do both, but it isn't very common in my experience. <em><strong>If you have a PG build that you fit into RP, it isn't the same as a RP build that you find the correct classes / races for to fulfill your idea</strong></em>. My table is more about RP, and I have house rules that eliminate some of the most PGish builds and we have such a greater variety of PCs that builds are almost never chosen for mechanics but instead story / region / personal preference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonsbane, post: 8155864, member: 6775188"] What jgsugden said. Happened in my games. I even tried to not up the villains and monsters but the PCs became bored. Then a battle that challenged the optimized PCs almost killed the rest. Opto PCs barely scratched. These are players new to my table that I skipped restrictions on as they were new (allowed single level dips, allowed a strange race, allowed a UA class). I wont skip my house rules again. As far as the video and my personal thoughts . . . while RP and powergaming are not exclusive, they certainly are not common friends. Some quotes from my tables over the last 30 years: 1) What race has CHA bonus? / Um, do you have a PC concept in mind? / Yes, an elf but if they don;t have a CHA bonus I will play whatever does. / Ojo 2) I think I will dip into Hexblade 1 level. / Why? / For the bonus stuff. / What patron do you have in mind? / Eh I won't really even mention it doesn't matter . . . 3) I have a great concept! A Fighter with this feat and that feat and... / Is the concept a RP one? I toned down GWF and Sharpshooter in the house rules... / OK I have another concept! I'm sorry, nothing wrong with PGing (no hate here) but to say both commonly exist together is disingenuous, perhaps players can do both, but it isn't very common in my experience. [I][B]If you have a PG build that you fit into RP, it isn't the same as a RP build that you find the correct classes / races for to fulfill your idea[/B][/I]. My table is more about RP, and I have house rules that eliminate some of the most PGish builds and we have such a greater variety of PCs that builds are almost never chosen for mechanics but instead story / region / personal preference. [/QUOTE]
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