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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8360341" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>I just think the amount of effort is relevant.</p><p></p><p>I believe there were 11,000 entries for the 2002 setting competition. They submitted a 1 page summary. That was narrowed to a few who did a 10 page summary. Who were then narrowed down to 3 who visited WOC offices and fleshed out the project properly.</p><p></p><p>The reason your employer metaphor doesn’t work in a competition setting is that there is no barrier to entry, no guarantee of quality, and no expectation that a great deal of what you enter will have any value. Would you buy an unlimited number of something for 20 bucks, for something you don’t the quality of, from people you never heard of?</p><p></p><p>My understanding of the reason the competition runner has ownership of entries in these cases is not necessarily so they can sell them on, but rather that if they later go on to make something that has similarities even coincidental to one of the half complete ideas or concepts they aren’t open to legal challenge. I sue WOC because my 1 page submission has a half formed idea out of context that ends up similar to an encounter in Wild Beyond the Witchlight so I try and make a quick buck. It doesn’t mean they’re profiting off the losing submissions.</p><p></p><p>[I can see this has been shot down by Morrus earlier. This might make me an arm chair lawyer. However having seen our company do a couple of competitions first hand I know there is pressure and concern from legal teams to ensure competitions don’t end up causing future legal issues. I would flip it and ask if people are aware of competitions of this type where companies have taken losing submissions and profited from them? Is this a real problem or a made up one?]</p><p></p><p>Incidentally the reason I used my 50 words example earlier was that when I was 20 I entered one of those competitions with Red Bull, a complete-the-sentence style competitions. It had the same language in the terms… that redbull owned the submission and could use it for whatever they liked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8360341, member: 6879661"] I just think the amount of effort is relevant. I believe there were 11,000 entries for the 2002 setting competition. They submitted a 1 page summary. That was narrowed to a few who did a 10 page summary. Who were then narrowed down to 3 who visited WOC offices and fleshed out the project properly. The reason your employer metaphor doesn’t work in a competition setting is that there is no barrier to entry, no guarantee of quality, and no expectation that a great deal of what you enter will have any value. Would you buy an unlimited number of something for 20 bucks, for something you don’t the quality of, from people you never heard of? My understanding of the reason the competition runner has ownership of entries in these cases is not necessarily so they can sell them on, but rather that if they later go on to make something that has similarities even coincidental to one of the half complete ideas or concepts they aren’t open to legal challenge. I sue WOC because my 1 page submission has a half formed idea out of context that ends up similar to an encounter in Wild Beyond the Witchlight so I try and make a quick buck. It doesn’t mean they’re profiting off the losing submissions. [I can see this has been shot down by Morrus earlier. This might make me an arm chair lawyer. However having seen our company do a couple of competitions first hand I know there is pressure and concern from legal teams to ensure competitions don’t end up causing future legal issues. I would flip it and ask if people are aware of competitions of this type where companies have taken losing submissions and profited from them? Is this a real problem or a made up one?] Incidentally the reason I used my 50 words example earlier was that when I was 20 I entered one of those competitions with Red Bull, a complete-the-sentence style competitions. It had the same language in the terms… that redbull owned the submission and could use it for whatever they liked. [/QUOTE]
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