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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8360656" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>But that isn't how it works.* Again, if people don't want to have fan contests ... that's cool. Just say that.</p><p></p><p>Look, I'll give you an easy-to-understand example. There was a tradition of "lady's nights" at bars. Usually on slow nights (like Mondays or Tuesday), they would offer discounted drinks to women, as it would bring in more women, and thus, more men.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, certain men began to sue claiming it wasn't gender neutral. I mean- of course it wasn't. So in a lot of places, you can't find these sorts of preferences.</p><p></p><p>Was this good? Bad? It depends, I guess.</p><p></p><p>But the same types of people sue, on the same basis, for other reasons. A ballpark that has a Mother's Day promotion? Sued. A gym that allows only women? Sued. And so on.</p><p></p><p>The actual preference for gender equality is always good, but the devil is in the details. And once the lawsuits start, it's always easier to avoid them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, sure. People don't want this fan contest. But the concept is generally applicable to all fan contests- and companies are risk averse If people want to get rid of all fan contests because they think that it's just like wage theft and child labor, then <em>more power to them</em>. But that's what the argument really is.</p><p></p><p>As for me- I don't really have an opinion on the underlying merits yet. I've always tended to view most fan contests, from the corporate side, as a major PITA, and I can imagine that the general lack of them that we've seen will continue going to almost nothing. If that's a good thing or not, well, I guess it depends on whether you find them enjoyable or a net positive. But there isn't a magic world where large companies are going to run fan contests and not protect themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>*Waiver of rights is different than use in submitted works like this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8360656, member: 7023840"] But that isn't how it works.* Again, if people don't want to have fan contests ... that's cool. Just say that. Look, I'll give you an easy-to-understand example. There was a tradition of "lady's nights" at bars. Usually on slow nights (like Mondays or Tuesday), they would offer discounted drinks to women, as it would bring in more women, and thus, more men. Anyway, certain men began to sue claiming it wasn't gender neutral. I mean- of course it wasn't. So in a lot of places, you can't find these sorts of preferences. Was this good? Bad? It depends, I guess. But the same types of people sue, on the same basis, for other reasons. A ballpark that has a Mother's Day promotion? Sued. A gym that allows only women? Sued. And so on. The actual preference for gender equality is always good, but the devil is in the details. And once the lawsuits start, it's always easier to avoid them. So, sure. People don't want this fan contest. But the concept is generally applicable to all fan contests- and companies are risk averse If people want to get rid of all fan contests because they think that it's just like wage theft and child labor, then [I]more power to them[/I]. But that's what the argument really is. As for me- I don't really have an opinion on the underlying merits yet. I've always tended to view most fan contests, from the corporate side, as a major PITA, and I can imagine that the general lack of them that we've seen will continue going to almost nothing. If that's a good thing or not, well, I guess it depends on whether you find them enjoyable or a net positive. But there isn't a magic world where large companies are going to run fan contests and not protect themselves. *Waiver of rights is different than use in submitted works like this. [/QUOTE]
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