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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8361217" data-attributes="member: 7023840">So, given your rhetoric and your tendency to call anyone trying to discuss this with you evil, scammers, or "empty suits ... with steepled fingers" not to mention calling this "predatory scumbaggery," I am starting to have difficulty believing you are discussing this in good faith. Combined with you lack of knowledge of the issue (as just demonstrated) and your continued pivots to demonizing people - such as here- instead of discussion, I will assume that this is the last exchange we will have. But I will try one more time for all the good that it will do... given that Whizzbang (who is a creative) and I have both explained this at length, I doubt it will do any good, but hey, you never know.1. This doesn't insult artists generally. Instead, it's just an acknowledgement that as a general rule, fan contests that solicit art, writing, or other creative work usually solicits a lot of bad work. Because ... you aren't paying professionals for work! This should be obvious. If you've ever been involved in one of these contests, at any level, you know that you have to sort through a lot of bad stuff. Now, maybe it's the case that only amazing artists are entering, and they only send the most amazing work, which would be new and different. I am happy to be corrected, but that is different than what I know.2. These competitions, for larger companies, are always loss leaders. As [USER=7015332]@PsyzhranV2[/USER] has correctly pointed out (and as I had a whole thread devoted to), creatives in the TTRPG industry get paid squat. It is cheaper for companies to pay creatives to create to spec than to design and run these competitions. The only reason they do it is for the buzz- the marketing, the engagement. When I say this, referring to what I wrote, I am discussing reputable companies, not ones that are running scam competitions. But these aren't profit centers ... far from it.3. As has been repeatedly pointed out, and as you keep ignoring, it's not just some "theoretical lawsuit," it's a whole lot of actual lawsuits.Again, if you don't want the protections in these competitions, that's cool. Just don't have the competitions. But you can't expect companies to run these types of contests without protecting themselves. This really isn't that hard. And all the namecalling and abuse you hurl at people you disagree with doesn't change that.</blockquote>

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