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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8362066" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>My random thoughts.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Seems there's a good legal reason for companies to include the 'we own your work but you do too' style language.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Generally speaking, if someone feels something is exploitative they don't participate. If Joe Blow freely chose to participate, who are we to tell him he is being 'exploited' or 'preyed upon' or whatever?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The real issue for artwork is deeper. I think the deeper issue with art is that people in general are creative and as such will produce art and other creative works whether they get paid for it or not. Many will share those works whether they get paid for them or not. As such that creative nudge that allows us to create and enjoy art is the same reason that so many find it difficult to make a living off art. Also, in the digital age everyone can be an artist and can easily display their works for the whole world to see. Heck, they can even sale the same exact work multiple times. That makes for far too much competition and ease of access. Competition and ease of access drives down prices, except for the top 1% or so, where ease of access actually helps them drive their prices higher as ease of access helps expand their customer base. Anyways, the point is that becoming a professional artist is harder than ever in many ways. The previous point plays into the next one. It's in the paid artists benefit to push for amateur unpaid artists of any skill level to stop offering their works for no/trivial compensation. It's essentially less competition and less exposure for possible competitors. To me that makes the motivations selfish and not altruistic. IMO driving up prices via limiting competition is exactly the kind of immoral capitalistic behavior that gets despised when corporations do it. Ultimately, I think it's more human nature than corporations that cause the difficulty so many creative people experience in pursing a living based on their creativeness.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8362066, member: 6795602"] My random thoughts. [LIST] [*]Seems there's a good legal reason for companies to include the 'we own your work but you do too' style language. [*]Generally speaking, if someone feels something is exploitative they don't participate. If Joe Blow freely chose to participate, who are we to tell him he is being 'exploited' or 'preyed upon' or whatever? [*]The real issue for artwork is deeper. I think the deeper issue with art is that people in general are creative and as such will produce art and other creative works whether they get paid for it or not. Many will share those works whether they get paid for them or not. As such that creative nudge that allows us to create and enjoy art is the same reason that so many find it difficult to make a living off art. Also, in the digital age everyone can be an artist and can easily display their works for the whole world to see. Heck, they can even sale the same exact work multiple times. That makes for far too much competition and ease of access. Competition and ease of access drives down prices, except for the top 1% or so, where ease of access actually helps them drive their prices higher as ease of access helps expand their customer base. Anyways, the point is that becoming a professional artist is harder than ever in many ways. The previous point plays into the next one. It's in the paid artists benefit to push for amateur unpaid artists of any skill level to stop offering their works for no/trivial compensation. It's essentially less competition and less exposure for possible competitors. To me that makes the motivations selfish and not altruistic. IMO driving up prices via limiting competition is exactly the kind of immoral capitalistic behavior that gets despised when corporations do it. Ultimately, I think it's more human nature than corporations that cause the difficulty so many creative people experience in pursing a living based on their creativeness. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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