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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8362932" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>We have similar work/study programs here in Canada in high school. When I did it, back in the stone ages, I was given credit for the time towards my high school diploma. A single semester of working mornings at a local newspaper got me the equivalent credit of 2 full classes. </p><p></p><p>So, no, job training is not exploitative. It's training you for a job. You are gaining a skill through this training that you can then potentially get a full time job with. And, note, at the university level, these programs are full time paid positions. The University of Waterloo work/study program placed you at a company for about 4 months where you were paid a heck of a lot more than minimum wage. While I didn't do the program, friends paid their way through school with theirs. </p><p></p><p>But, I'd like to come back to this point about the boilerplate being "protection". See, AFAIK, it is only protecting you from those who entered the contest. Only thing is, there are already hundreds, if not thousands, of these frames out in the wild, many of them in for sale collections. Which means that D&DB would have to do an image search before they put it on their website. They wouldn't really have a choice since it's entirely possible that a great, wonderful, winning idea, is really, really close to some other person's great, wonderful idea that they've had up for sale on Roll 20 for the past two years.</p><p></p><p>Not because of any deliberate fraud, but, because there are only so many great, wonderful, winning ideas and a lot of them start looking really the same when you start dealing with large numbers. </p><p></p><p>So, the boilerplate doesn't actually protect DDB at all. Well, it protects them from the contest entrants, I suppose, but, since there are many other artists out in the wild and a pretty large library of images that have been around for about 20 years (the first time I used a VTT was 2002 and they had frames back then) then they're going to have to do these image searches anyway.</p><p></p><p>People are just assuming that the boilerplate is doing the job. I really don't think it's doing anything at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8362932, member: 22779"] We have similar work/study programs here in Canada in high school. When I did it, back in the stone ages, I was given credit for the time towards my high school diploma. A single semester of working mornings at a local newspaper got me the equivalent credit of 2 full classes. So, no, job training is not exploitative. It's training you for a job. You are gaining a skill through this training that you can then potentially get a full time job with. And, note, at the university level, these programs are full time paid positions. The University of Waterloo work/study program placed you at a company for about 4 months where you were paid a heck of a lot more than minimum wage. While I didn't do the program, friends paid their way through school with theirs. But, I'd like to come back to this point about the boilerplate being "protection". See, AFAIK, it is only protecting you from those who entered the contest. Only thing is, there are already hundreds, if not thousands, of these frames out in the wild, many of them in for sale collections. Which means that D&DB would have to do an image search before they put it on their website. They wouldn't really have a choice since it's entirely possible that a great, wonderful, winning idea, is really, really close to some other person's great, wonderful idea that they've had up for sale on Roll 20 for the past two years. Not because of any deliberate fraud, but, because there are only so many great, wonderful, winning ideas and a lot of them start looking really the same when you start dealing with large numbers. So, the boilerplate doesn't actually protect DDB at all. Well, it protects them from the contest entrants, I suppose, but, since there are many other artists out in the wild and a pretty large library of images that have been around for about 20 years (the first time I used a VTT was 2002 and they had frames back then) then they're going to have to do these image searches anyway. People are just assuming that the boilerplate is doing the job. I really don't think it's doing anything at all. [/QUOTE]
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