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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8373627" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Or, perhaps, this is what the conversation is like:Hussar: I don't understand what these terms and conditions mean.Snarf: Here, let me do a full analysis and pull the documents D&D Beyond and explain it.Hussar: Don't condescend to me! Also, look at this other awesome contest.Snarf: Did you look at the terms & conditions for the company?In another thread, someone posted about foreigners buying land in Japan; something you happened to know about. Well, either you can look at the actual documents (the T&C) and understand what the point is, or you just want to argue? I'm not sure which it is- any time people try to explain things to you, you accuse them of being condescending or not being clear, or not agreeing with you.But to recap:1. This is what actually happened with D&D Beyond.[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/anatomy-of-a-snafu-d-d-beyond-and-the-curious-contest.681839/#post-8364468[/URL]If you look in that thread, all the source documents and links were provided. If you understood what those documents meant, it was simple to understand. To the extent I thought it was funny, it was because it was glaringly obvious to me; much like (I am sure) issues regarding Japan are to you.2. In approximately 3 minutes, I googled the contest (assumedly the farm contest) and the T&C for Inkarnate, which were typical for a company like that. Now, maybe you think there is some defining difference in a company that provides online mapmaking tools running a contest with a single winner getting an extension to the product that lets them make more maps (valued by the company at $25), and a requirement that the asset be available for free, but you also have to read it in pari materia with the terms & conditions of the product/website itself which I provided to you which apply to all art made with the product and to all submissions to the company. Or not! You can just ignore that because it has lots of words and I don't feel like making another deep dive- but even if you do, then:You just gave your approval to a company running a contest that gave a virtual grandprize of letting you continue to use the company's tools ($25 value!), in exchange for making your own art freely available for use by the company's customers and allowing the company to market your art as an example of what the company's product does.I personally don't think Inkarnate did anything wrong. I think it is quite possible to support better wages (and actual employee status, when possible) for artists, and to understand that the issues regarding liability and contests are different than the issues surrounding the gig economy.I think it should be possible to discuss some of these issues and realize that there is nuance that is missed, and that twitter always manages to miss the nuance.</blockquote>

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