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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9247385" data-attributes="member: 7025282">I am responding generally here not specifically to you alone so forgive my expounding…though I agree with you.All of this cuts both ways.&nbsp; Which is why I think published data is interesting and entertaining and good conversation starters but…that’s a bout it.Some folks on a forum constantly talk about the royal “we”—- players in general.Their experience rarely reflects my experience.&nbsp; BUT I play with friends generally.&nbsp; I was not playing AL, was not in a game club.&nbsp; My group are just dudes who love the game.&nbsp; Which brings up the notion about sampling…What percentage of D&amp;D players use Beyond?&nbsp; Are these class choices parts of multiple character-building exercises?&nbsp; I make lots of characters I don’t play…if I don’t play them much or do a one shot, how qualified am I to expound on the class?Again, I love the data!&nbsp; Keep it coming!&nbsp; But let’s take it with a grain of salt.Anyone on here saying “no one likes this,” “everyone wishes this,” “clearly this is hated,”&nbsp; “it was all a conspiracy to make a crappy game that just panders to x”….these folks have an opinion.&nbsp; That’s it.&nbsp; It’s not always an educated one in a strict sense.&nbsp; It does not add up logically either.I know my experience.&nbsp; I know my observations.&nbsp; Other than folks with data in the company that is all there is.&nbsp; They surely have enough to try to market their wares.The idea that the game would purposely suck is so absurd it defies logic.&nbsp; As a result, I assume/reason that a portion of the design choices are based on what folks believe is WANTED by paying consumers.The profit motive alone suggests—-but does not prove that.The idea that the designers are purposely making something crappy according to their own data makes no sense.&nbsp; The company’s not pandering to a secret cabal of a demographic that everyone knows is dying off.This almost sounds like lizard people running the government.&nbsp; And I don’t have data disproving that fact but…yeah…Say what you think is going on but understand opinion for what it is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 9247385, member: 7025282"] I am responding generally here not specifically to you alone so forgive my expounding…though I agree with you. All of this cuts both ways. Which is why I think published data is interesting and entertaining and good conversation starters but…that’s a bout it. Some folks on a forum constantly talk about the royal “we”—- players in general. Their experience rarely reflects my experience. BUT I play with friends generally. I was not playing AL, was not in a game club. My group are just dudes who love the game. Which brings up the notion about sampling… What percentage of D&D players use Beyond? Are these class choices parts of multiple character-building exercises? I make lots of characters I don’t play…if I don’t play them much or do a one shot, how qualified am I to expound on the class? Again, I love the data! Keep it coming! But let’s take it with a grain of salt. Anyone on here saying “no one likes this,” “everyone wishes this,” “clearly this is hated,” “it was all a conspiracy to make a crappy game that just panders to x”….these folks have an opinion. That’s it. It’s not always an educated one in a strict sense. It does not add up logically either. I know my experience. I know my observations. Other than folks with data in the company that is all there is. They surely have enough to try to market their wares. The idea that the game would purposely suck is so absurd it defies logic. As a result, I assume/reason that a portion of the design choices are based on what folks believe is WANTED by paying consumers. The profit motive alone suggests—-but does not prove that. The idea that the designers are purposely making something crappy according to their own data makes no sense. The company’s not pandering to a secret cabal of a demographic that everyone knows is dying off. This almost sounds like lizard people running the government. And I don’t have data disproving that fact but…yeah… Say what you think is going on but understand opinion for what it is. [/QUOTE]

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