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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9250906" data-attributes="member: 22779">Because it's not &quot;corner cases&quot;.&nbsp; There are spells at every single level that do this.&nbsp; It's that some of these spells simply get brought out as the example because they are the worst offenders.&nbsp; And it's NEVER ENDING.&nbsp; You're trying to plug holes in the dike with your fingers instead of actually fixing any of the problems.&nbsp; I mean, Simulacrum is insane.&nbsp; You simply have your Simulacrum cast Simulacrum and on and on.&nbsp; Infinite Wish spells.&nbsp; Wahoo!&nbsp; Solves all that ruby dust problems.&nbsp; I have infinite wishes.&nbsp; I can just wish for ruby dust.If it was only a &quot;couple of examples&quot;, this wouldn't be an issue.&nbsp; But, of course, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.&nbsp; No criticism is valid.&nbsp; All problems are one hundred percent user error.&nbsp; Couldn't possibly be a problem in the game.&nbsp; Of course not.&nbsp; The fact that WotC has gone through the spell list with a honking big nerf hammer and already adjusted dozens of spells?&nbsp; Naw, that's nothing.&nbsp; There was never a problem there.&nbsp; It's all just white board theory crafting.And it never ends.&nbsp; Do you really think I'm either that incompetent that I haven't already thought of the solutions (or seen them brought up in the last ten years)?&nbsp; That I haven't actually TRIED to resolve issues?&nbsp; Seriously?&nbsp; Howzabout, instead, we start from the position that I'm reasonably competent as a DM, that I am, in fact, ACTUALLY having problems, and suggest how we could solve those?&nbsp; I know that that's a totally off the wall idea.&nbsp; After all, that would mean that we have to admit that 5e isn't the pinnacle of perfection of game design.&nbsp; But, it's just such a wild and crazy idea that it might just work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9250906, member: 22779"] Because it's not "corner cases". There are spells at every single level that do this. It's that some of these spells simply get brought out as the example because they are the worst offenders. And it's NEVER ENDING. You're trying to plug holes in the dike with your fingers instead of actually fixing any of the problems. I mean, Simulacrum is insane. You simply have your Simulacrum cast Simulacrum and on and on. Infinite Wish spells. Wahoo! Solves all that ruby dust problems. I have infinite wishes. I can just wish for ruby dust. If it was only a "couple of examples", this wouldn't be an issue. But, of course, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. No criticism is valid. All problems are one hundred percent user error. Couldn't possibly be a problem in the game. Of course not. The fact that WotC has gone through the spell list with a honking big nerf hammer and already adjusted dozens of spells? Naw, that's nothing. There was never a problem there. It's all just white board theory crafting. And it never ends. Do you really think I'm either that incompetent that I haven't already thought of the solutions (or seen them brought up in the last ten years)? That I haven't actually TRIED to resolve issues? Seriously? Howzabout, instead, we start from the position that I'm reasonably competent as a DM, that I am, in fact, ACTUALLY having problems, and suggest how we could solve those? I know that that's a totally off the wall idea. After all, that would mean that we have to admit that 5e isn't the pinnacle of perfection of game design. But, it's just such a wild and crazy idea that it might just work. [/QUOTE]

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