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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9252081" data-attributes="member: 7025508">I did some math in my head yesterday, and six barbarians just straight up pummelling the roll in melee have a somewhat reasonable chance of taking it down before they are all killed. With five it would be tougher, but they still could win with some luck. Not saying this is any way optimal.Point of it being bad encounter is not that it is unwinnable. It is that it can super easily swing to TPK if key spells fail, the troll hits well in the early rounds etc. To most people very high chance of that happening (especially as this probably is not some pivotal end boss as we are at the first level) just isn't fun.Also, with casters we are using their meagre first level spell selection to optimise them for this one encounter; one should hope this would give them some edge, as it means they will be suboptimal against many other encounters!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 9252081, member: 7025508"] I did some math in my head yesterday, and six barbarians just straight up pummelling the roll in melee have a somewhat reasonable chance of taking it down before they are all killed. With five it would be tougher, but they still could win with some luck. Not saying this is any way optimal. Point of it being bad encounter is not that it is unwinnable. It is that it can super easily swing to TPK if key spells fail, the troll hits well in the early rounds etc. To most people very high chance of that happening (especially as this probably is not some pivotal end boss as we are at the first level) just isn't fun. Also, with casters we are using their meagre first level spell selection to optimise them for this one encounter; one should hope this would give them some edge, as it means they will be suboptimal against many other encounters! [/QUOTE]

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