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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9252524" data-attributes="member: 22779">Ok, still don't have time to go back to my fight scenario, but, a couple of things pop out.[USER=6789971]@bedir than[/USER] - I like your picture.&nbsp; However, couple of points.&nbsp; Number one, on your computer screen, that horse is a couple of inches high.&nbsp; In real life, that's a seven foot, several hundred pound animal that is not exactly stealthy.&nbsp; If that horse got within 60 feet of you without you noticing, you really have no business being in a forest.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; At 30 feet, that's a pretty easy kill shot with a hunting bow by a competent hunter.&nbsp; True, behind the tree, it would have cover, but, the idea that I wouldn't know it was there?&nbsp; Yeah, not likely.&nbsp; Notice you have clear sight lines pretty much to the ridge, some 100 feet behind.[USER=7030563]@ECMO3[/USER] - You have highlighted exactly the problem I have with casters in 5e.&nbsp; Because 5e is written in plain, conversational English, you get all these weird interactions between rules packets, like spells, and the general rules.&nbsp; Is &quot;grapple&quot; an attack or not?&nbsp; See, if you rule that it is an attack, then Sanctuary remains a pretty solid defensive spell.&nbsp; However, if you rule that it's not an attack, then Sanctuary becomes a much more powerful spell, as you have demonstrated.And there are thousands of spells in the game.&nbsp; Many of which have these same sorts of interactions with the spells and require adjudication.&nbsp; It's such a huge PITA.&nbsp; Particularly, again, for someone like me who is running games with 4 or 5 casters in every group.&nbsp; It means that you have to make these kinds of adjudications every single session, if not every single encounter.&nbsp; And then another supplement book comes out and now there are a hundred more rule packets called spells and feats that need to be adjudicated and possibly we have to revisit earlier adjudications to reflect the new rules packets.On and on and on.&nbsp; It's such a huge PITA.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9252524, member: 22779"] Ok, still don't have time to go back to my fight scenario, but, a couple of things pop out. [USER=6789971]@bedir than[/USER] - I like your picture. However, couple of points. Number one, on your computer screen, that horse is a couple of inches high. In real life, that's a seven foot, several hundred pound animal that is not exactly stealthy. If that horse got within 60 feet of you without you noticing, you really have no business being in a forest. :D At 30 feet, that's a pretty easy kill shot with a hunting bow by a competent hunter. True, behind the tree, it would have cover, but, the idea that I wouldn't know it was there? Yeah, not likely. Notice you have clear sight lines pretty much to the ridge, some 100 feet behind. [USER=7030563]@ECMO3[/USER] - You have highlighted exactly the problem I have with casters in 5e. Because 5e is written in plain, conversational English, you get all these weird interactions between rules packets, like spells, and the general rules. Is "grapple" an attack or not? See, if you rule that it is an attack, then Sanctuary remains a pretty solid defensive spell. However, if you rule that it's not an attack, then Sanctuary becomes a much more powerful spell, as you have demonstrated. And there are thousands of spells in the game. Many of which have these same sorts of interactions with the spells and require adjudication. It's such a huge PITA. Particularly, again, for someone like me who is running games with 4 or 5 casters in every group. It means that you have to make these kinds of adjudications every single session, if not every single encounter. And then another supplement book comes out and now there are a hundred more rule packets called spells and feats that need to be adjudicated and possibly we have to revisit earlier adjudications to reflect the new rules packets. On and on and on. It's such a huge PITA. [/QUOTE]

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