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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9253184" data-attributes="member: 22779">And no amount of details is apparently enough.&nbsp; Half dozen spells?&nbsp; Good grief, I've mentioned more than that in just this thread. My point is, I LOATHE having that conversation with players.&nbsp; Player says, &quot;I'm now level X, and I've picked spell Y&quot;.&nbsp; Fair enough, frankly, I want to trust the system to the point where I honestly don't really check that often.&nbsp; Then it comes into play.&nbsp; And it turns out that no, this spell, feat, whatever, actually burns me so freaking often.&nbsp; Lessee, in just the past few months, just from memory:Manifest Mind - intangible, virtually unkillable sensor with a 300 foot range, can see in the dark (and comes with it's own light source if needed) that can basically walk through walls, doors, whatever solid objects and telepathically inform the caster what it sees.&nbsp; Also allows the caster to cast spells through it if needed. Forbiddence:&nbsp; as mentioned.Banishment - a 4th level spell that becomes more powerful the higher the level of the party because it becomes virtually guaranteed that every monster you meet is extra planar of some sort at higher CR's.&nbsp; Becomes a save or die spell for most encounters.&nbsp; Not bad for a 4th level slot.&nbsp; ((Yes, yes, for the ultra-pedantic, I know the monster isn't dead, but, it's been sent to another plane and most monsters have no way back - close enough to dead.))Project Image - allows the casters a sensor that can walk through walls, out to 500 miles for a day.&nbsp; All sorts of shenanigans for this one. On and on and on.&nbsp; It never stops.&nbsp; Just endless.&nbsp; But, of course, since I can't actually create an exhaustive list for you, you just keep telling me that there is no problem and i'm just making things up.I KNOW you aren't having this problem.&nbsp; Thank you for telling me that over and over again.&nbsp; Howzabout you let people who ACTUALLY HAVE THIS PROBLEM help me resolve this issue instead of repeatedly telling me that I'm either lying or incompetent?&nbsp; What are you trying to achieve by denying my experience?&nbsp; You aren't having this issue?&nbsp; Great?&nbsp; You have repeatedly stated that you don't have a lot of casters in your group and your games end before double digit levels.&nbsp; So, yeah, of course you aren't having this issue.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9253184, member: 22779"] And no amount of details is apparently enough. Half dozen spells? Good grief, I've mentioned more than that in just this thread. My point is, I LOATHE having that conversation with players. Player says, "I'm now level X, and I've picked spell Y". Fair enough, frankly, I want to trust the system to the point where I honestly don't really check that often. Then it comes into play. And it turns out that no, this spell, feat, whatever, actually burns me so freaking often. Lessee, in just the past few months, just from memory: Manifest Mind - intangible, virtually unkillable sensor with a 300 foot range, can see in the dark (and comes with it's own light source if needed) that can basically walk through walls, doors, whatever solid objects and telepathically inform the caster what it sees. Also allows the caster to cast spells through it if needed. Forbiddence: as mentioned. Banishment - a 4th level spell that becomes more powerful the higher the level of the party because it becomes virtually guaranteed that every monster you meet is extra planar of some sort at higher CR's. Becomes a save or die spell for most encounters. Not bad for a 4th level slot. ((Yes, yes, for the ultra-pedantic, I know the monster isn't dead, but, it's been sent to another plane and most monsters have no way back - close enough to dead.)) Project Image - allows the casters a sensor that can walk through walls, out to 500 miles for a day. All sorts of shenanigans for this one. On and on and on. It never stops. Just endless. But, of course, since I can't actually create an exhaustive list for you, you just keep telling me that there is no problem and i'm just making things up. I KNOW you aren't having this problem. Thank you for telling me that over and over again. Howzabout you let people who ACTUALLY HAVE THIS PROBLEM help me resolve this issue instead of repeatedly telling me that I'm either lying or incompetent? What are you trying to achieve by denying my experience? You aren't having this issue? Great? You have repeatedly stated that you don't have a lot of casters in your group and your games end before double digit levels. So, yeah, of course you aren't having this issue. [/QUOTE]

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