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<blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 9255143" data-attributes="member: 6914290">For me, I'm inclined to discount a lot of personal wilderness experience..since I am not a professional fantasy adventurer and I'm not typically in the fantasy wilderness with a group of professional fantasy adventurers..fantasy adventuring. As such, I tend to at least try and consider what mechanical attributes the D&amp;D adventuring party and the monster have when I'm thinking through what an encounter should look like within a particular environment.Because, if a a 9ft biped with no stealth skills got within the same distance from my party as the Amazon guy has to walk to drop of my Prime deliveries, I'd expect the party to go..&quot;Wait..none of us heard or saw or smelt this thing at all before now?&quot;When that group that could include a 200 year-old wood elf trained in the magic of the forest, a recent graduate of a magical academy with an owl friend to scout the surroundings, and an acolyte of a tangible knowledge deity gifted with a taste of their god's divine power, I find..&quot;Well, I was once surprised by a moose&quot;....to be a rather inadequate response.Of course..YMMV I suppose.All that said. My ultimate point is that example-by-scenario is frequently a poor strategy to employ in forum discussions, but it's worse when the parties involved are not using a common baseline, and worse still when some of those differences are contrary to stated game mechanics and descriptions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gammadoodler, post: 9255143, member: 6914290"] For me, I'm inclined to discount a lot of personal wilderness experience..since I am not a professional fantasy adventurer and I'm not typically in the fantasy wilderness with a group of professional fantasy adventurers..fantasy adventuring. As such, I tend to at least try and consider what mechanical attributes the D&D adventuring party and the monster have when I'm thinking through what an encounter should look like within a particular environment. Because, if a a 9ft biped with no stealth skills got within the same distance from my party as the Amazon guy has to walk to drop of my Prime deliveries, I'd expect the party to go.. "Wait..none of us heard or saw or smelt this thing at all before now?" When that group that could include a 200 year-old wood elf trained in the magic of the forest, a recent graduate of a magical academy with an owl friend to scout the surroundings, and an acolyte of a tangible knowledge deity gifted with a taste of their god's divine power, I find.. "Well, I was once surprised by a moose".. ..to be a rather inadequate response. Of course..YMMV I suppose. All that said. My ultimate point is that example-by-scenario is frequently a poor strategy to employ in forum discussions, but it's worse when the parties involved are not using a common baseline, and worse still when some of those differences are contrary to stated game mechanics and descriptions. [/QUOTE]

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