D&D Computer Games

In some ways the movies without the baggage of a built in fan base may be the easiest to make. Imagine how hard it would be for someone to make a critically acclaimed movie based on the Star Wars Universe at this time.

Could anyone ever make a critically acclaimed movie based on Star Wars? :p
 

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Flexor the Mighty! said:
KOTR is easily the best RPG I've played since BG II. NWN doesn't even rate in comparison IMO.



QFT. I hope that the restoration project will manage to make kotor 2 less, well, disappointing. I mean, KOTOR2 had all the possibilties to be better than kotor1 or even BG2. So yes, I consider BG2 the best game I have ever played. Followed in some sort of jumble by Deus Ex and the KOTORs. While I quite liked bg1 the first time I played through it, I've only managed to replay it once afterwards... a pretty good sign of learning on one's mistakes and improving on strengths for a sequel, I think (but it does add to the enjoyment of the second one!)
 

Steel_Wind said:
I agree that NWN's OC does not even rate, though HotU (which adopted the KotOR design ethos) at least rates, albeit well behind.

Not that much of a problem to me, since NWN for me never was supposed to be a SP game. There's enough of those out there.

I'll even be a heretic and suggest that is played better on the XBox than on the PC. (And I am no fan of consoles generally. But it DID play better on the Xbox folks.)

The problem is that you'll have to get an XBOX to do that. Beyond my conviction that the Wii is the only feasible console if you have a decent PC (which I have), I wouldn't buy a console from MS (or from Sony, for that matter).
 

Kae'Yoss said:
The problem is that you'll have to get an XBOX to do that. Beyond my conviction that the Wii is the only feasible console if you have a decent PC (which I have), I wouldn't buy a console from MS (or from Sony, for that matter).

Considering that Wii wasn't out back then... I got my xbox for the kotors and deus ex 2. And I stuck pretty much to that, I have less than 10 titles altogether :)

Still haven't upgraded from it. Yet to see a single "must-have" title for any of them, like the three that got me into xbox...
 

Tal Rasha said:
I tip my hat to the people who beat Drizzt in Baldur's Gate 1. It's good to see what determination can accomplish.

Determination and having nothing better to do (ah, school-time was great)

Every 10 minutes you have to fight a new party of high-level, well prepared, nasty-tempered enemies. If you have the time, disposition and can get your hands on the add-ons, you should try them.

Well, that alone does not a good game make. The NWN module scene is flooded with modules that are nothing more than a series of tough fights, and those have probably been cobbled together in a couple of hours.

On a side note, I really wish I had a bit more free time and a bit less distaste towards the Star Wars setting. I've really been hearing good things about KotoR and KotoR II.

They are nice games.
 

Kaodi said:
Fie on multi-player D&D computer games that eschew the best possible single-player experience.

They might not be for everyone, but it's good that there are games like that.

If you have a decent D&D group, you do not need a multiplayer D&D CRPG, because you are already enjoying a superior multiplayer experience.

But not as often as I'd like to. We meet once per week, on Saturdays. Frankly, I doubt that we'd be able to get together more often, or to get another day where everyone could play.

So what am I to do if I want some more D&D? Play BG2 again? Sooner or later, it gets boring since I know every quest and fight by rote. For me, it got boring during the 3rd or 4th time playing through it.

I want to be able to play different adventures without paying for a new game each time, and I want to be able to play together with human-controlled characters.

NWN made that possible. Whenever I wanted D&D but had no game scheduled, I could get something that was pretty close.

They have Jade Empire and the KotORs, and probably other games as well, lined up for single player. NWN was the game that gave me close-to-D&D experience. Only because some (or even most) people prefer playing with themselves doesn't mean that there shouldn't be at least one NWN-like game-line for those who don't.
 

Kae'Yoss said:
So what am I to do if I want some more D&D? Play BG2 again? Sooner or later, it gets boring since I know every quest and fight by rote. For me, it got boring during the 3rd or 4th time playing through it.

I've been able to find a surprising amount of mileage from it by combining different classes and parties. Maybe I don't bore easily (I'm a lawyer).

Kae'Yoss said:
They have Jade Empire and the KotORs, and probably other games as well, lined up for single player. NWN was the game that gave me close-to-D&D experience. Only because some (or even most) people prefer playing with themselves doesn't mean that there shouldn't be at least one NWN-like game-line for those who don't.

Well, considering that NWN 2 was the last one to come out, you should be pretty well fixed, eh? :) While I quite liked Jade Empire (to my surprise), it pretty much lacks the strategic elements in combat, especially the one brought in by party control (and the rest of the combat is pretty "lite" when compared with the kotors or bgs/iwds). Been quite a while since the last game in that vein (kotor2) came out...
 

DM-Rocco said:
Hey, if you thought Drizzt was hard, did you ever fight Demogorgon with the two summoned maraliths at the same time. That was just about the hardest first ever. Actually, that battle and the one from the original Pool of Radiance were the hardest. The one from Pool of Radiance was in the bottom of a tower filled with something insane like 10 beholders, 10 drow lords and I think something else too. Since you had level restrictions, mages couldn't get past level 6 and fighters couldn't get past level 8, that was one hell of a fight.

Ah, the fight against Demogoron. So many pleasant memories. I remember that I enjoyed exploring the keep he was being kept in, and although there were some fights to go through before you reached him, I honestly wasn't that concerned. In fact, I was a bit insulted that the NPCs who gave me that quest (clerics, were they?) suggested that I imprison him instead of fighting him. Long story short, I went in severly unprepared the first time around, and was consequently properly kicked. Hard. After this came a long, long series of reloads which taught me to not be stingy with my potions and scrolls, and to be on the look-out for sharp drops in my NPCs' health :). I do think that there were some rather aggressive snake-women in there as well, I recall only being able to physically hit Demogorgon after I got through them. Did he by any chance summon anything else? Regardless, in the end, my spell casters are what allowed me to defeat him. Praise be to my Thayan mage (Edwin) and my cleric (Viconia). I summoned, if memory serves, a Deva and a Dark Planetar. I literally could not believe how powerful they were. They kept back the marilliths where my characters had previously failed miserably. So, with the summons' might and spells (also awesome, btw), my main character(Kensai, dual-wielding Katanas) doing the bulk of the mêlée damage, and the other characters supporting, healing and throwing bad spells at him, I was finally able to defeat Demogorgon. Man, was it ever satisfying. Oh, and my characters went in with so many enchantments on them I half expected them to become encumbered :).

You see, something like this I really like. It gives you something to work at and makes you feel good when you overcome the challenge. The Pool of Radiance fight that you mention, however, just sounds unfair. There was no cloak of mirroring in the game I assume? :D
 

Mulmaster Beholder Corps was in Curse of the Azure Bonds. The idea was to use Dust of Disappearance before it and it was pretty much a walk in the park. Can't remember what treasure you got off them, but it was pretty sweet :)
 

Tal Rasha said:
I tip my hat to the people who beat Drizzt in Baldur's Gate 1. It's good to see what determination can accomplish.

speaking of determination, in Curse of the Azure Bonds on my trusty Commodore 64, my party was able to defeat the Mulmaster Beholder Corps (Dark Elf Lords, High Priests, Beholders and Rakshasa) that was in the side dungeon in Daggerdale. Don't ask me how I was able to do it but I have a witness. :)
 

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