D&D General D&D Editions: Anybody Else Feel Like They Don't Fit In?

[Micah Sweet]

then why be fake medieval try for something else just not a punk genre.

what even is dwarf class about or a halfling class about?
reference tables?
zocchi dice look like an abomination against the the platonic solids

Unless faux medieval is what you want. I doubt dungeon punk specifically was the problem.

 

[JohnSnow]

I guess what I want is that lower-magic old-school vibe without the killer dungeons, quirky subsystems, and having to rely so much on DM fiat.

And I say that as the guy who usually ends up as the DM. It'd be nice if I didn't feel like I was having to make up new rules every session.

 

[el-remmen]

I am right there with you and am waiting for the 2024 PHB to come out so I can steal what I like from it and finish a document that essentially a Frankenstein D&D, or as I am calling it, "Vanity 5e."

 

[Aldarc]

I guess what I want is that lower-magic old-school vibe without the killer dungeons, quirky subsystems, and having to rely so much on DM fiat.

And I say that as the guy who usually ends up as the DM. It'd be nice if I didn't feel like I was having to make up new rules every session.

Dragonbane

There are anthromorphic ducks and wolves, but apart from that.

 

[Reynard]

I guess what I want is that lower-magic old-school vibe without the killer dungeons, quirky subsystems, and having to rely so much on DM fiat.

And I say that as the guy who usually ends up as the DM. It'd be nice if I didn't feel like I was having to make up new rules every session.

These statements seem to be at odds.

 

[Mind of tempest]

The problem for me is that it just doesn't feel like a world in which magic is rare and/or mysterious if all the PCs cast spells. Making them "the exception" doesn't make a difference to that.

so a no-caster world?
also why make it feel so off to you I can get wanting to lower the power creep of mages but what is so wrong with them as player options?

These statements seem to be at odds.

how are the points conflicting?

 

[Reynard]

how are the points conflicting?

They want GM fiat, but don't want to feel like they are making up rules. Those are opposed desires.

 

[Micah Sweet]

so a no-caster world?
also why make it feel so off to you I can get wanting to lower the power creep of mages but what is so wrong with them as player options?

how are the points conflicting?

Because the actual game you're playing will be full of magic, because all the PCs cast spells. I don't care much about power creep. I care about what the game looks like, both in play and as the setting relates to the PCs.

 

[Aldarc]

I guess what I want is that lower-magic old-school vibe without the killer dungeons, quirky subsystems, and having to rely so much on DM fiat.

And I say that as the guy who usually ends up as the DM. It'd be nice if I didn't feel like I was having to make up new rules every session.

They want GM fiat, but don't want to feel like they are making up rules. Those are opposed desires.

I think that "without" applies to the list, including "having to rely so much on DM fiat."

 

[overgeeked]

I guess what I want is that lower-magic old-school vibe without the killer dungeons, quirky subsystems, and having to rely so much on DM fiat.

And I say that as the guy who usually ends up as the DM. It'd be nice if I didn't feel like I was having to make up new rules every session.

Not sure how you can avoid referee fiat and making up new rules while still having players with any amount of agency. Good players are going to regularly do things the rules don't cover.