D&D General D&D Evolutions You Like and Dislike [+]


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Dislikes:

1. The tone. The art is good but the move toward happy shiny people is not evocative. Same goes for less of a medieval “theme.” And while it’s not a rules evolution, it seems all encompassing.
I see this a lot. What I don't understand is that D&D has always had art that didn't match the medieval theme and had shiny happy people. Also, their is still art that is dark, grim, and medieval in 5e & 5e24 art. So my question to you: how much of one or the other is to much for you?
 

I see this a lot. What I don't understand is that D&D has always had art that didn't match the medieval theme and had shiny happy people. Also, their is still art that is dark, grim, and medieval in 5e & 5e24 art. So my question to you: how much of one or the other is to much for you?
For me, modern (WoTC) D&D doesn't have someone like Jim Holloway. His art kept it real. Not heroic. Regular looking people, with at least one of them in quite the pickle. Modern D&D art is all heroic. Which is fine, but I miss the Jim Holloways of the world.
 

Is that a 2024 thing?
Yes. Bards and druids both got moved to simple weapons only, unless you pick a feature or subclass that gives you all martial weapons. Druid lost scimitar (which was goofy but iconic) but bards lost a lot of one handed weapons like longsword, rapiers and whips which fit the bard look so well. 2024 bards now are stuck with daggers and maces as weapons.
 

For me, modern (WoTC) D&D doesn't have someone like Jim Holloway. His art kept it real. Not heroic. Regular looking people, with at least one of them in quite the pickle. Modern D&D art is all heroic. Which is fine, but I miss the Jim Holloways of the world.
I guess I disagree with that statement, it is not all heroic. Is it mostly heroic, probably, but I wouldn't say all of it.

Now, I will say I too miss the more grounded style (3e and 4e art were the worse offenders of the crazy heroic style IMO) to some extent, but I really appreciate variety and I feel 5e and in particularly 5e24 is providing that more than any era of WotC art. It is not the wild west of TSR era art, but I am not sure I want that (I think the 2e PHB is some of the worst PHB art of all time).
 


I guess I disagree with that statement, it is not all heroic. Is it mostly heroic, probably, but I wouldn't say all of it.

Now, I will say I too miss the more grounded style (3e and 4e art were the worse offenders of the crazy heroic style IMO) to some extent, but I really appreciate variety and I feel 5e and in particularly 5e24 is providing that more than any era of WotC art. It is not the wild west of TSR era art, but I am not sure I want that (I think the 2e PHB is some of the worst PHB art of all time).
OK @dave2008 those are fighting words! 2e PHB art is the best of D&D!
 

I guess I disagree with that statement, it is not all heroic. Is it mostly heroic, probably, but I wouldn't say all of it.
I'm sure it's probably not, but I can't think of any that aren't. Certainly nothing like this:

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OK @dave2008 those are fighting words! 2e PHB art is the best of D&D!
Glares at you in Tramp, Willingham, Roslof, and Otis.
 

Wait, how are scimitars iconic for druids? I have never in my life pictured a druid with a scimitar. I am trying right now and I can't do it!
i believe i read somewhere it's from a bit of a lore interpretation weirdness originating from earlier editions, how the IRL druidic traditions they were based off of there was significance in harvesting mistletoe using golden sickles, i believe sickles didn't exist in some earlier editions and so they were given scimitar proficiency for that purpose instead and it just kind of stuck.

i think, don't quote me on any of that.
 


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