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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8253202" data-attributes="member: 18">Oh definitely! The point I've always made is that if you subjected any existing 5E full-caster to the &quot;approval process&quot; they put the Mystic etc. through, they'd be roundly rejected. Bards would basically be shot out of a cannon, but even Wizards would be &quot;OP&quot;. They shouldn't be using UA for stuff like that because the 70% approval threshold just won't be met by most classes (I'm not sure many of 5E's core class designs and archetypes would have met it, frankly, if presented in isolation - Rogues maybe, but a few posts on reddit and other sites about how it was &quot;too easy&quot; to get SA - even though that was the design intention - and they'd have had massive bad feedback).And yeah they take into account the wants of people who in another breath will happily say they don't want Psionics at all and/or wouldn't allow them with the same weight as people do and then say there's confusion, well duh guys, you created that confusion out of whole cloth.It's particularly bad as I strongly suspect that if there was any kind of spell-point-based caster properly woven into 5E they'd be extremely popular (Sorcerer ain't it).But I suspect they'll do a better job in 6E. I mean, if they don't, I may just skip it lol, given we seem to be heading BACK TO THE NINETIES (time-travel voice) in terms of diversity of &quot;good RPGs&quot; by the standards of the time (and those standards are much higher today).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8253202, member: 18"] Oh definitely! The point I've always made is that if you subjected any existing 5E full-caster to the "approval process" they put the Mystic etc. through, they'd be roundly rejected. Bards would basically be shot out of a cannon, but even Wizards would be "OP". They shouldn't be using UA for stuff like that because the 70% approval threshold just won't be met by most classes (I'm not sure many of 5E's core class designs and archetypes would have met it, frankly, if presented in isolation - Rogues maybe, but a few posts on reddit and other sites about how it was "too easy" to get SA - even though that was the design intention - and they'd have had massive bad feedback). And yeah they take into account the wants of people who in another breath will happily say they don't want Psionics at all and/or wouldn't allow them with the same weight as people do and then say there's confusion, well duh guys, you created that confusion out of whole cloth. It's particularly bad as I strongly suspect that if there was any kind of spell-point-based caster properly woven into 5E they'd be extremely popular (Sorcerer ain't it). But I suspect they'll do a better job in 6E. I mean, if they don't, I may just skip it lol, given we seem to be heading BACK TO THE NINETIES (time-travel voice) in terms of diversity of "good RPGs" by the standards of the time (and those standards are much higher today). [/QUOTE]

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