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<blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 4277603" data-attributes="member: 34175">Its the web, what else did you expect?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Seriously though, we went through the same thing about 8 years ago.&nbsp; I've been playing since 1st edition (1978 is when I started) and even 2nd edition had its doom-sayers, and really the conversions there were as simple as pie.&nbsp; When 3rd first hit I hated it.&nbsp; Feats, AoOs, what was this crap and what had they done with my game I could play in my head without minis?&nbsp; And there is a lot about 4e that isn't very user friendly if you play a 'traditional' style game (meaning real world physics altered to allow for fantasy and magic ala 1st &amp; 2nd).&nbsp; I had a real hard time adjusting to 3.X and was just starting to get the hang of it, but my book shelf was starting to sag under the weight of all the references in order for me to get it to where I wanted it.At some point I'll figure out what to tweak and what to drop and then WotC will announce 5th edition and I'll have to do it all over again, and all the 'doom-sayers' from this time around will start to become the aged-veterans such as myself.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Of course, fan-boys will always be fan-boys and if 5th edition should be all video based with internal synapses implants that must be updated for a 'low cost' every week or they fry you into a molten glob of goo, there will be some dingle head raving about how 'integrated' it is; regardless of the fact that D&amp;D just became extremely deadly.&nbsp; My point being, that there are fanatics on both sides of the argument and the real trick is trying not to be on either side, but trying to find the soft fleshy center in the middle.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you can live there, life is much easier.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thunderfoot, post: 4277603, member: 34175"] Its the web, what else did you expect? :) Seriously though, we went through the same thing about 8 years ago. I've been playing since 1st edition (1978 is when I started) and even 2nd edition had its doom-sayers, and really the conversions there were as simple as pie. When 3rd first hit I hated it. Feats, AoOs, what was this crap and what had they done with my game I could play in my head without minis? And there is a lot about 4e that isn't very user friendly if you play a 'traditional' style game (meaning real world physics altered to allow for fantasy and magic ala 1st & 2nd). I had a real hard time adjusting to 3.X and was just starting to get the hang of it, but my book shelf was starting to sag under the weight of all the references in order for me to get it to where I wanted it. At some point I'll figure out what to tweak and what to drop and then WotC will announce 5th edition and I'll have to do it all over again, and all the 'doom-sayers' from this time around will start to become the aged-veterans such as myself. :) Of course, fan-boys will always be fan-boys and if 5th edition should be all video based with internal synapses implants that must be updated for a 'low cost' every week or they fry you into a molten glob of goo, there will be some dingle head raving about how 'integrated' it is; regardless of the fact that D&D just became extremely deadly. My point being, that there are fanatics on both sides of the argument and the real trick is trying not to be on either side, but trying to find the soft fleshy center in the middle. If you can live there, life is much easier. :cool: [/QUOTE]

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