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<blockquote data-quote="molepunch" data-source="post: 5934977" data-attributes="member: 6683467">Sorry OP I'm with Dannager too. Let your taste for grittiness be an option and not the core rules. The crowd that likes the grittiness and challenge is more niche, I reckon. I also feel like there's some level of gaming elitism going on. It's like saying we are too soft to play &quot;real&quot; D&amp;D so &quot;go ahead and give yourselves some handicap and bump your happy selves up to level 7 where the at-will magic missiles and Reaper features are... Me? I'll frakking EARN my level 7 thank you very much. *epeen*&quot;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The way I see it, you start off with a Class and that already implies a local hero of some measure in terms of capabilities. Normal Joes don't even have a Class.It's fine to have zero to hero tastes though. I certainly enjoy it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="molepunch, post: 5934977, member: 6683467"] Sorry OP I'm with Dannager too. Let your taste for grittiness be an option and not the core rules. The crowd that likes the grittiness and challenge is more niche, I reckon. I also feel like there's some level of gaming elitism going on. It's like saying we are too soft to play "real" D&D so "go ahead and give yourselves some handicap and bump your happy selves up to level 7 where the at-will magic missiles and Reaper features are... Me? I'll frakking EARN my level 7 thank you very much. *epeen*" ;) The way I see it, you start off with a Class and that already implies a local hero of some measure in terms of capabilities. Normal Joes don't even have a Class. It's fine to have zero to hero tastes though. I certainly enjoy it. [/QUOTE]

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