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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5936849" data-attributes="member: 48965">Ok, I'll guess, Uhm... a vocal minority? No real evidence to support that guess, but I do wonder if the number of players of OD&amp;D, B/X D&amp;D, BECMI D&amp;D, AD&amp;D 1e, AD&amp;D 2e Retro-clones, Pathfinder/3.5, etc. outnumber those who have selected 4e as their D&amp;D of choice. If so it would be a strong argument that the supposed &quot;sweet spot&quot; isn't necessary for the majority of players to enjoy D&amp;D. &nbsp;IME, most casual and new players, don't sit up and analyze games like this, they wouldn't know what the &quot;sweet spot&quot; of D&amp;D is suppose to be if asked. They take the assumptions of the particular edition in stride and play to have fun (and yes a higher chance of death can be fun for many, especially in beer and pretzel games). &nbsp;In fact, I would aslo argue most new/casual gamers don't get pre-attached to characters like some more experienced gamers do... at least not initially. Now admitedly, this is all anecdotal, but that's all anybody has anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5936849, member: 48965"] Ok, I'll guess, Uhm... a vocal minority? No real evidence to support that guess, but I do wonder if the number of players of OD&D, B/X D&D, BECMI D&D, AD&D 1e, AD&D 2e Retro-clones, Pathfinder/3.5, etc. outnumber those who have selected 4e as their D&D of choice. If so it would be a strong argument that the supposed "sweet spot" isn't necessary for the majority of players to enjoy D&D. IME, most casual and new players, don't sit up and analyze games like this, they wouldn't know what the "sweet spot" of D&D is suppose to be if asked. They take the assumptions of the particular edition in stride and play to have fun (and yes a higher chance of death can be fun for many, especially in beer and pretzel games). In fact, I would aslo argue most new/casual gamers don't get pre-attached to characters like some more experienced gamers do... at least not initially. Now admitedly, this is all anecdotal, but that's all anybody has anyway. [/QUOTE]

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