D&d Minis Hurrayyy!

[Zogg]

The whiners are really getting out of hand.

If you need a bunch of orcs then buy some orc mini's from a business that sells orcs in bunches - it's not really that expensive but yes, you will have to take the time to paint them. Just buy one bottle of green paint and bam, your done. OR not.

I will probably buy a set, maybe two. I'm not a DM but I'll loan the mini's I get to mine so that we can have a better atmosphere than DICE, which we currently use to represent monsters. I like the collectible idea - it's fun not knowing exactly what you will get. If you want to be a crankypants about not getting what you want go on ebay in a couple of months and I'm sure you can find what you need. Baby.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beating a dead horse

It's possible I'm operating under a misconception, but I was under the impression that the mini game was still going to consist of other books you needed to buy.

Answer to this one is above. The mini game is in the Entry Pack, not other books you need to buy. D&D is the secondary thing for the mini game.

There will only be a secondary market if there is such a thing in your area. Where I live, you can sometimes find used magic cards at a comic book store, but that's it for the "secondary" market.

There are also places you can find online that sell individual minis for Clix games and CCGs...it would in no way surprise me that this game will follow that. Oh, and I'm not talking about Ebay.

No, it just means that I'm potentialy paying for 8 minis that I wont use at a time instead of four. My actual odds of getting something I want per mini purchases aren't any better regardless of how many are sold in a box.

If you're that against it...the simple thing to do is not buy it or just go to the secondary market. I do wonder, though, if WotC is going to try to get in the D&D RPG players by releasing packs of Orcs, Goblins, etc etc. I think it'd be a great idea, and everyone would benefit...and they might, but we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beating a dead horse

*shrug*

Like I said, It's possible I was wrong. Not going to argue that.

But as the topic at hand is using them for a DnD game, I still say it's a really poor way of doing it.

I will definatly agree with that point. I think its a horrible way to draw in most D&D players. Most D&D players have been playing a long time, and like to paint minis. I personally think people like me are more a minority. If WotC really wants to drag in both groups, I agree they should try doing 'themed' boxes. Still random, but maybe based around a certain idea or place. Like a graveyard etc.

 

[Tsyr]

The whiners are really getting out of hand.

If you need a bunch of orcs then buy some orc mini's from a business that sells orcs in bunches - it's not really that expensive but yes, you will have to take the time to paint them. Just buy one bottle of green paint and bam, your done. OR not.

I will probably buy a set, maybe two. I'm not a DM but I'll loan the mini's I get to mine so that we can have a better atmosphere than DICE, which we currently use to represent monsters. I like the collectible idea - it's fun not knowing exactly what you will get. If you want to be a crankypants about not getting what you want go on ebay in a couple of months and I'm sure you can find what you need. Baby.

It occours to me that one of the rules of this forum is no insults. Ah well.

I'm not whining about being forced to buy them. I'm not. Buying them, that is. No interest. I found a place that sold Bags of Orcs a while back, and bought a bag of them. Skeletons are so easy to paint (A coat of off-white, maybe mist a squirt of grey or tan over them afterwords) that it's not even funny. Most other creatures I don't need hoards of.

I think, though, you would have a few less "whiners", as you call them, if, even keeping the collectable line, wizards put out another series of boxes of "hoard" creatures... Orcs, Skeletons, maybe some Goblins and Kobolds, things like that. Things that people can often have a need for lots of. A lot of the complaints I have heard about the collectable line (Other than the general low quality of the minis we have seen thus far), is that it could be a potential time and money saver for getting hoards of critters, but Wizards chose to ignore that venue. So why don't they put out boxes of the hoard creatures? Heck, if they are so concerned about their precious mini game, put them out as a different series (On different bases, or something) that aren't legit for "tournament" play or something. Just for us DnD players... You know, their loyal flock, not the C*Gers hopping onto whatever the latest C*G craze is?

 

[Mystery Man]

How much are these packs going to be?

 

[WizarDru]

Re: Re: Re: beating a dead horse

Boy, I hope you never see one of those machines that rolls a penny flat and stamps it with the logo of someplace... They have 'em all over anymore, at big tourist traps and stuff.

Why yes, Yes they are.

The United States Codes under Title 18, Chapter 17, and Section 331, "prohibits the mutilation, diminution and falsification of United States coinage." However, it has been the opinion of some individual officers at the Treasury Department, though without any indication of approval, the foregoing statute does not prohibit the mutiliation of coins if done without fraudulent intent or if the mutilated coins are not used fraudulently.

As for the minis...did the other companies stop producing them? I mean, let's be honest, here: the core mini market is not going to suddenly be sublimated by WotC's entry into the market with plastic figures. You want 20 goblins? Go buy them from someone else? Between Warhammer, Repear and a few dozen other companies, you'll have no shortage.

The only ones that would be relevant are specific intellectual properties of D&D that might not be common. Finding an Orc pack is easy...finding a Githyanki or Beholder much less so. However, there is still a huge back catalog of minis available. There's nothing wrong with disliking WotC's strategy here, but it's not like the mini industry is in dire peril.

As was mentioned above...I LIKE the randomness. One of the most fun parts of something like HeroClix is the discovery of what's in the pack. And after 23+ years of gaming, I'm just as happy to use an orc mini to represent a bugbear, hobgoblin, half-orc, zombie, gelugon or anything else that is size appropriate.

To quote Monty Python: "It's only a model."

 

[Drkfathr1]

Whining?

I'm not whining. I'm just saying I don't like it and I don't plan on buying them.

Another problem with it being a stand alone mini game, is that it can never compete with Heroclix. Because the whole appeal of the clix games is the base! It simplified so much. Now WOTC wants folks to get into yet another mini game (the market is already crowded), but they want you to go back to cards, dice, etc.

They're just not going to have the same appeal.

The bandwagon has already left the station....

 

[JoeGKushner]

Ah but it introduces "Sealed Box" D&D tournaments at conventions. Give each table a box of Heros and a Box of monsters, get them 30minutes to design characters and an adventure to suit the figures, then play for the next 3 and half hours.

Could be fun...

Now you know, you put the rolling eyes there but it COULD be fun. Kinda like a random sit down game. It's help move some players in directions they don't normally take.

I've got a player who I swear, if he makes one more stinking ranger...

Thank god he hasn't read all the Drizzt books or they'd be drow rangers.

 

[Goobermunch]

Bah. If you need a horde of orcs or skelletons, buy the Dwarven Forge packs. You'll get what you need. Then you can supplement with the lower quality, cheaper WotC minis.

--G

 

[Bagpuss]

Now you know, you put the rolling eyes there but it COULD be fun. Kinda like a random sit down game. It's help move some players in directions they don't normally take.

Actually as I wrote it I was thinking of the possibilities... remember you saw it here first.