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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9541397" data-attributes="member: 2525">I don't even know what E6, E10, and E12 are? But yeah, if you've been on this message board or Reddit's message board for the past decade discussing 5e, a top complaint was lack of higher level monsters.Ha, why else did you think they had complete stats? Yes we fought the Gods as kids. Everyone I knew did at some point. And Iuz. And Tiamat. And Vecna.This version of the game has needed more powerful top end monsters from the first day it was released over a decade ago. Not much of a vicious cycle when the monster part of it never even began.People do like to sometimes play 18+ level PCs and there are not adequate threats for those levels. They can wipe out 100 CR3 creatures with a single spell and CR3 isn't a threat even in large numbers at those levels.Why are you so upset there are very high level threats in the new MM? Do you even play at those levels and if not, why would you care that those who do now have threats that will be challenging?</blockquote>