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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8996920" data-attributes="member: 2525">I asked it as an example question and the overwhelming majority of my post was not about that. I disagree with you it was the exception: it's one of the models the industry uses. But fine, was The Irishman (won academy award) a hit or flop?There is no data on any of that. We truly do not have those numbers as even vaguely firm answers. Why are you focusing on that minor question I asked when the overwhelming majority of my post had nothing to do with that? NONE of what I posted was predicated on that example. The point, which you are dodging, is a huge component of movie production budgets and profit margins is now based on streaming data we don't have. Nothing you've said answers that in any way.You mean the part about me saying we don't have that data? You don't need to guess: we don't have that data. HOWEVER the people who do have access to that data are saying the movie is a hit. And to counter that you're saying you disagree based on you...not having the data on streaming so counting it as $0.Truly, what you think about this topic as an amateur on the outside is irrelevant to that question. The studio seems to think it's a hit right now and THEY have that data, and also happen to be A STREAMING PLATFORM. This doesn't answer 90% of what I said. It sure feels like you were trying to score a point (and not a good one) without grappling with the issue being presented. Again in sum: we know for sure a very meaningful portion of what is considered profit for a movie being made today is streaming revenue. That is a major component now of the formula. You counted it as $0. We know that's a badly inaccurate estimate given that. So why do you continue to use the old outdated formula you know for sure isn't giving you a good estimate?</blockquote>

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