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<blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 9018119" data-attributes="member: 27996"><p>Thank you Devilbass!</p><p></p><p>We can now put this to rest:</p><p></p><p></p><p>i.e. <em>"You can't call D&D a flop just based on the box-office performance because 'muh streaming'..."</em></p><p></p><p>Which is untrue because, the "traditional" metrics are still used; because <em>everything still works the same! </em></p><p></p><p>I have pointed this out a few times but it was ignored, so I figured the best way was to get one of them to do it for me. (Or in this case to 'like' when someone else did).</p><p></p><p>I was really hoping that mistwell or bedir than was going to jump all over my obvious contradiction, (I was starting to worry they would gloss over what I did yet again, like they did in my sunday, and monday responses, which is why I got more wordy), but your response was perfect, as both of them agreed with your post with likes.</p><p></p><p>In more than one post I have said:</p><p></p><p></p><p>How do they do that?</p><p></p><p>As you wonderfully pointed out: (My replies are not directed at you Devilbass, because I agree with everything you posted.)</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>i.e. By tracking how the film does over time.</em></p><p></p><p>That's how it has <em>Always Worked. </em></p><p></p><p>In the past they would track the films progress from rental, to premium cable, to cable, then down to network tv.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The same game, different format.</p><p></p><p>All VOD rental and buy and streaming platforms like Paramount+ have done is re-create the Rentals, Premium/Basic cable run a film would use to make money on the back end, just in a view on demand format. (Streaming companies are basically "inventing" on-demand cable tv with their premium and ad tiers.)</p><p></p><p>So claiming that D&DHat is not a flop because there are: <em>"..several other factors that will take a while to collect." </em>Does not hold water.</p><p></p><p>Because as has been nicely pointed out in a post that <em>Everyone agrees with</em>, they are tracking how the movie does on the backend essentially the same as they <em>always</em> have.</p><p></p><p>Because all the new factors are the same as the "old" factors, just in a different format.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did D&D flop at the box office? Yes.</p><p></p><p>It didn't break even, and it now has around a 100m hole to fill on the backend.</p><p></p><p>Does it have a shot at 'fan favorite' status, and replicate what the 2013 Pacific Rim film did?</p><p></p><p>Only time will tell on that.</p><p></p><p>Because nobody but the studio knows what it will make on the backend. Just like every other film released over the past 40 years...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 9018119, member: 27996"] Thank you Devilbass! We can now put this to rest: i.e. [I]"You can't call D&D a flop just based on the box-office performance because 'muh streaming'..."[/I] Which is untrue because, the "traditional" metrics are still used; because [I]everything still works the same! [/I] I have pointed this out a few times but it was ignored, so I figured the best way was to get one of them to do it for me. (Or in this case to 'like' when someone else did). I was really hoping that mistwell or bedir than was going to jump all over my obvious contradiction, (I was starting to worry they would gloss over what I did yet again, like they did in my sunday, and monday responses, which is why I got more wordy), but your response was perfect, as both of them agreed with your post with likes. In more than one post I have said: How do they do that? As you wonderfully pointed out: (My replies are not directed at you Devilbass, because I agree with everything you posted.) [I]i.e. By tracking how the film does over time.[/I] That's how it has [I]Always Worked. [/I] In the past they would track the films progress from rental, to premium cable, to cable, then down to network tv. The same game, different format. All VOD rental and buy and streaming platforms like Paramount+ have done is re-create the Rentals, Premium/Basic cable run a film would use to make money on the back end, just in a view on demand format. (Streaming companies are basically "inventing" on-demand cable tv with their premium and ad tiers.) So claiming that D&DHat is not a flop because there are: [I]"..several other factors that will take a while to collect." [/I]Does not hold water. Because as has been nicely pointed out in a post that [I]Everyone agrees with[/I], they are tracking how the movie does on the backend essentially the same as they [I]always[/I] have. Because all the new factors are the same as the "old" factors, just in a different format. Did D&D flop at the box office? Yes. It didn't break even, and it now has around a 100m hole to fill on the backend. Does it have a shot at 'fan favorite' status, and replicate what the 2013 Pacific Rim film did? Only time will tell on that. Because nobody but the studio knows what it will make on the backend. Just like every other film released over the past 40 years... [/QUOTE]
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