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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9064312" data-attributes="member: 2525">I claimed they were a rag not worth it? When? [Noteworthy by the way: that article was written by someone whose primary experience is writing for the same news website I wrote for, for many years, about movies and television.]Whether or not Paramount+ succeeds or fails is irrelevant to the analysis of studios, particularly Hasbro, to support a sequel or other separate D&D movie. The streaming money brought in from the D&D movie, in direct purchases and subscribers, is meaningful even if Paramount+ ended next week overall, because there is ZERO relationship between the success or failure of the larger streaming platform and an individual movie content which that platform happens to stream.You keep claiming it's "not a third party" but that is misrepresenting the situation - that's not how corporate structures work and Paramount pictures is not, in fact, Paramount+. Paramount+ is a subsidiary of Paramount Streaming which is a subsidiary of Paramount Global. They are different entities under eventually the same larger umbrella Paramount Global, all with very distinct financials. It's not like money made by the streaming platform somehow doesn't "count" as much because it's under a larger Paramount Global umbrella instead of being streamed by Netflix. Paramount Global owns for example CBS. If CBS went under, would you be claiming that was relevant to whether Comedy Central succeeds or fails? They're exactly as related as Paramount+ and Paramount Pictures. Paramount Media Networks for example is also a separate entity under the larger structure which owns Showtime and Comedy Central and MTV and Nickelodeon. Again, none of those are related to the success or failure of Paramount+ either. Financially speaking, these are all separate entities.I'll ask again, what is your level of expertise in this field? If there is no answer I will assume the hints you've given are the truth - none, you're just a fan who reads some stuff on the net like everyone else. Which, again, isn't itself a knock but it does mean you should stop telling people things like "I think you just don't understand" when you're also just a fan whose understanding is likely just as good or bad as anyone else you're talking to.I think we all roughly understand about the same here. We have a legit debate about how important the streaming aspect of the movie is to the larger picture, and about how much of the marketing budget there really was for the movie, and about how much revenue they receive from theaters domestically and internationally, and about how much ancillary money they make from revenue streams associated with the movie like toys and branded products and such. These are all legit debates. None of them should be dismissed as "you just don't understand as well as I do" when it comes to these topics. None of us are claiming to have insider knowledge. So can we please just discuss this stuff without the declarations of fact and expertise which are not?</blockquote>

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