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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8002014" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Just took another look; I could have sworn there was talk in the past months of them reprinting Forge and Grave Domains from Xanathar's in this book to support some of the Therosian deities. I guess WotC are treating some rules expansions like XGE as essential books now, rather than reprinting their content as needed by the setting… of course, doesn't explain why parts of VGM was reprinted in EGW and E:RLW, though…</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally a death to the strict sexual dimorphism of Satyrs and Hamadryads.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just because College of Eloquence and Oath of <s>Heroism </s>Glory made it into MOT, and just because we know Onomancy is dead and Aberrant Mind was reworked into Psionic Soul, The Revived into Phantom, and the Noble Genie into the Genie doesn't mean the rest of those UA subclasses are dead. In fact, if anything, the reworking of a clearly Therosian concept of "The Revived" Rogue into a more general death & soulstealing Phantom Rogue (could fit the Faceless Men of GOT, for example), suggests that some if not many of these subclasses are still en-route to another book. Jeremy Crawford made it very clear in the latest Dragon+ yt video that lack of revisiting could mean EITHER the UA was scrapped or the UA was mostly solid and is being finalized for a future book.</p><p></p><p>If there's a so-called "Xanathar's 2" this Fall - perhaps tied thematically to Planescape without being a full setting book - I'd expect 2-4 subclasses PER Class; We're getting too late into the year to playtest subclasses for such a book for the first time.</p><p></p><p>I'd expect beyond the two that ended up in Theros, we'd see the following in a non-setting expanded-rules book later this year (VGM, XGE, timing) or early next year (MTF, GOS timing):</p><p></p><p>Artificer:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Base Class features (non-setting reprint)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alchemist (reprint)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Armorer</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Artillerist (reprint)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Battle Smith (reprint)</li> </ul><p>[I expect one of the non-Armorer subclasses to be dropped and left as Eberron-only, though]</p><p>Barbarian:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Path of the Beast</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Path of the Wild Soul</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE a Battle-Rager reprint</li> </ul><p>Bard:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">College of Creation</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I don't know what else. College of Eloquence is too recent to reprint. They wouldn't reprint XGE subclasses, methinks.</li> </ul><p>Cleric: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Twilight Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Unity Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE an Order Domain reprint?</li> </ul><p>Druid:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Circle of the Stars (locked in per Crawford)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Circle of Wildfire</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE a Circle of Spores reprint?</li> </ul><p>Fighter:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rune Knight</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Banneret reprint would be awesome, focusing on the non-Realms lore for what was called Purple Dragon Knight in SCAG</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Echo Knight too recent to reprint, methinks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE Psi Knight? I'm thinking Dark Sun might have reprints for these classes, while giving them here would allow other settings to use them.</li> </ul><p>Monk:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Way of the Astral Self</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Way of Mercy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE a Long Death reprint.</li> </ul><p>Paladin:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oath of the Crown reprint</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oath of the Watchers</li> </ul><p>Ranger:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Variant Class Features</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fey Wanderer</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Swarmkeeper</li> </ul><p>Rogue:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Phantom</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Soulknife for same reasons as Psi Knight above.</li> </ul><p>Sorcerer:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Clockwork Soul a shoe-in for Planescape</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psionic Soul for same reasons above.</li> </ul><p>Warlock:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pact of the Talisman</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Patron: The Lurker in the Deep</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Patron: The Genie</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MAYBE a Patron: The Undying reprint</li> </ul><p>Wizard:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Order of Scribes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bladesinging reprint</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Graviturgy and Chronurgy too recent to reprint, methinks…</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8002014, member: 6803643"] Just took another look; I could have sworn there was talk in the past months of them reprinting Forge and Grave Domains from Xanathar's in this book to support some of the Therosian deities. I guess WotC are treating some rules expansions like XGE as essential books now, rather than reprinting their content as needed by the setting… of course, doesn't explain why parts of VGM was reprinted in EGW and E:RLW, though… Finally a death to the strict sexual dimorphism of Satyrs and Hamadryads. Just because College of Eloquence and Oath of [S]Heroism [/S]Glory made it into MOT, and just because we know Onomancy is dead and Aberrant Mind was reworked into Psionic Soul, The Revived into Phantom, and the Noble Genie into the Genie doesn't mean the rest of those UA subclasses are dead. In fact, if anything, the reworking of a clearly Therosian concept of "The Revived" Rogue into a more general death & soulstealing Phantom Rogue (could fit the Faceless Men of GOT, for example), suggests that some if not many of these subclasses are still en-route to another book. Jeremy Crawford made it very clear in the latest Dragon+ yt video that lack of revisiting could mean EITHER the UA was scrapped or the UA was mostly solid and is being finalized for a future book. If there's a so-called "Xanathar's 2" this Fall - perhaps tied thematically to Planescape without being a full setting book - I'd expect 2-4 subclasses PER Class; We're getting too late into the year to playtest subclasses for such a book for the first time. I'd expect beyond the two that ended up in Theros, we'd see the following in a non-setting expanded-rules book later this year (VGM, XGE, timing) or early next year (MTF, GOS timing): Artificer: [LIST] [*]Base Class features (non-setting reprint) [*]Alchemist (reprint) [*]Armorer [*]Artillerist (reprint) [*]Battle Smith (reprint) [/LIST] [I expect one of the non-Armorer subclasses to be dropped and left as Eberron-only, though] Barbarian: [LIST] [*]Path of the Beast [*]Path of the Wild Soul [*]MAYBE a Battle-Rager reprint [/LIST] Bard: [LIST] [*]College of Creation [*]I don't know what else. College of Eloquence is too recent to reprint. They wouldn't reprint XGE subclasses, methinks. [/LIST] Cleric: [LIST] [*]Twilight Domain [*]Unity Domain [*]MAYBE an Order Domain reprint? [/LIST] Druid: [LIST] [*]Circle of the Stars (locked in per Crawford) [*]Circle of Wildfire [*]MAYBE a Circle of Spores reprint? [/LIST] Fighter: [LIST] [*]Rune Knight [*]Banneret reprint would be awesome, focusing on the non-Realms lore for what was called Purple Dragon Knight in SCAG [*]Echo Knight too recent to reprint, methinks [*]MAYBE Psi Knight? I'm thinking Dark Sun might have reprints for these classes, while giving them here would allow other settings to use them. [/LIST] Monk: [LIST] [*]Way of the Astral Self [*]Way of Mercy [*]MAYBE a Long Death reprint. [/LIST] Paladin: [LIST] [*]Oath of the Crown reprint [*]Oath of the Watchers [/LIST] Ranger: [LIST] [*]Variant Class Features [*]Fey Wanderer [*]Swarmkeeper [/LIST] Rogue: [LIST] [*]Phantom [*]Soulknife for same reasons as Psi Knight above. [/LIST] Sorcerer: [LIST] [*]Clockwork Soul a shoe-in for Planescape [*]Psionic Soul for same reasons above. [/LIST] Warlock: [LIST] [*]Pact of the Talisman [*]Patron: The Lurker in the Deep [*]Patron: The Genie [*]MAYBE a Patron: The Undying reprint [/LIST] Wizard: [LIST] [*]Order of Scribes [*]Bladesinging reprint [*]Graviturgy and Chronurgy too recent to reprint, methinks… [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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