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5E D&D Mythic Odysseys of Theros Previews!

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Parmandur

Legend
So, I checked around, due to the recent controversy:

- Mike Mearls was still credited as a designer in Descent into Avernus and Eberron Rising from the Last War. But in Wildemount and now here, Mearls is credited for "IP Development" in the marketing and brand management section of the credits.

- This is the first book with Ray Winninger as the Executive Producer.
 

cbwjm

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Is it next month the digital versions will show up? I have it preordered on DnDBeyond and will likely get the physical copy eventually once it becomes available. I'm looking forward to it, Theros is one of my favourite MtG settings, likely due to my love of Greek mythology.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Is it next month the digital versions will show up? I have it preordered on DnDBeyond and will likely get the physical copy eventually once it becomes available. I'm looking forward to it, Theros is one of my favourite MtG settings, likely due to my love of Greek mythology.
The original release date, yup.
 


Ugg... looking through the credits [REDACTED] is involved. I'd hoped they'd left the industry for good.

I'm a left leaning person and agree with 99.95% of their views and politics but have had nothing but negative interactions with them online. They're a really ugly, negative person that doesn't hesitate to brigade anyone they even thinks is [acting contrary to their views].
They really not the kind of person I want representing D&D.
 
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Parmandur

Legend
Ugg... looking through the credits Jessica Price is involved. I'd hoped she'd left the industry for good.

I'm a left leaning person and agree with 99.95% of her views and politics but have had nothing but negative interactions with her online. She's a really ugly, negative person that doesn't hesitate to brigade anyone she even thinks is being sexist.
She's really not the kind of person I want representing D&D.
Sure it's the same Jessica Price...?
 


Loving the monster and magic item previews - looks like lots of them will be easily usable in any game, or if a DM wants to give an area a Greek feel. I'm not terribly familiar with the setting, but it looks like most of those deities could (presumably with some tinkering) be fairly easily converted back to their original Greek inspirations, as I'm seeing some fairly familiar spheres of influence there...
 

Mercurius

Legend
Ugg... looking through the credits Jessica Price is involved. I'd hoped she'd left the industry for good.

I'm a left leaning person and agree with 99.95% of her views and politics but have had nothing but negative interactions with her online. She's a really ugly, negative person that doesn't hesitate to brigade anyone she even thinks is being sexist.
She's really not the kind of person I want representing D&D.
I feel your pain, but...people are imperfect. If you wish to de-platform her for her views and/or actions, then you enact the kind of behavior that you have a problem with in her. One of the unforrtunate outcomes of the times has been the fusion of art/creativity and socio-politics. I'd like to see us tease them apart a bit. The more we judge others and their views, and then transpose that onto their creativity, the more limited our pool of enjoyment becomes. Not to say that there isn't a line, but that it seems to be getting narrower and narrower.

Plenty of artists throughout history have had reprehensible views and habits according to this or that contemporary perspective (meaning, "different than mine"). Perhaps if we, in the context of the art, focus on the art itself, then we won't be so bothered by the other stuff? More specifically, maybe we can fit a wide range of ideologies and perspectives within the broad umbrella of rpg fandom?

Or to put it more simply: not only don't feed the troll, don't be bothered by it. Just enjoy the book, which looks really good.
 

I feel your pain, but...people are imperfect. If you wish to de-platform her for her views and/or actions, then you enact the kind of behavior that you have a problem with in her. One of the unforrtunate outcomes of the times has been the fusion of art/creativity and socio-politics. I'd like to see us tease them apart a bit. The more we judge others and their views, and then transpose that onto their creativity, the more limited our pool of enjoyment becomes. Not to say that there isn't a line, but that it seems to be getting narrower and narrower.

Plenty of artists throughout history have had reprehensible views and habits according to this or that contemporary perspective (meaning, "different than mine"). Perhaps if we, in the context of the art, focus on the art itself, then we won't be so bothered by the other stuff? More specifically, maybe we can fit a wide range of ideologies and perspectives within the broad umbrella of rpg fandom?

Or to put it more simply: not only don't feed the troll, don't be bothered by it. Just enjoy the book, which looks really good.
That is very true.

I don't want to de-platform someone and I really believe in second chances and forgiveness after making mistakes. And as a librarian, I believe in freedom to read and not censoring opposing viewpoints.

But this isn't an opposing view but a behaviour. And I also believe actions have consequences and if someone is a colossal asshole and bully, they should face some repercussions. And forgiveness only applies if you change your behaviour. And I don't like supporting people's work financially when I know they're an asshole.

But it's all moot as I wasn't planning on getting the book anyway...
 

So... supernatural gifts. Looks like they might be equal to a feat. So Theros characters might embrace the long term house rule of starting with a feat. Or other supernatural gift roughly equal to a feat...
That makes them easier to balance at least...
 

Parmandur

Legend
So... supernatural gifts. Looks like they might be equal to a feat. So Theros characters might embrace the long term house rule of starting with a feat. Or other supernatural gift roughly equal to a feat...
That makes them easier to balance at least...
Or let a character take one of the Gifts in the book as a Feat without major repercussions...
 

Mercurius

Legend
That is very true.

I don't want to de-platform someone and I really believe in second chances and forgiveness after making mistakes. And as a librarian, I believe in freedom to read and not censoring opposing viewpoints.

But this isn't an opposing view but a behaviour. And I also believe actions have consequences and if someone is a colossal asshole and bully, they should face some repercussions. And forgiveness only applies if you change your behaviour. And I don't like supporting people's work financially when I know they're an asshole.

But it's all moot as I wasn't planning on getting the book anyway...
I can respect all of that, and good point about view vs. behavior.
 

EthanSental

Adventurer
normally don’t look at credits but I did look for Emi Tanji who usually does layout and graphic design. She’s not mentioned on this one so I wonder what book she is working?
 

When a setting inspired in Sumerian/Mesopotamian/pre-Islamic Middle-East?

* Do you really think horns can be practical as natural weapon for minotaurs or another bipedal creature?
 

EthanSental

Adventurer
Sure, just think of the Minotaur like a football running back that lowers head to crash through the defense, just with horns on the helmet.
 


UngeheuerLich

Adventurer
I like to see supernatural gifts.
What I find interesting is, that in a recent thread someone asked which new thing Theros might bring to the table... and then examples from other books were listed...
... and I think some of those things (factions/downtime activities) are slight variations of those originally in the DMG.
Supernatural gifts might well be just a variation of "blessings" and "epic boons". And I still like it how Wizards takes one of the DMG options and brings it into spotlight.
 


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