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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 5814121" data-attributes="member: 1879">Part of the problem is the question of "What is a fighter?" There are too many answers, and in trying to get all of them, they end up with nothing much. For me the fighter archetype means "A professional fighting man."Of course that then includes:Warrior (professional fighter without a military like a Swordthane, or Viking raider.)Soldier (Legionaire, Pikeman, Archer, Skirmisher, Dragoon, etc)Gladiator Guard MercenaryShieldmanKnightOfficer/SeargentMarineChampionLooking at my own list ... I kind of see two primary classes:A) A Warrior, who is a solo combatant, and should probably be the best guy in the game in a one-on-one fight. In 4e terms a Striker. In 3e this was probably the Barbarian, or Warblade.B) A Solider, who fights with others, and should get bonus for being in a unit, as well as better social skills. In 4e terms a Defender. In 3e a Fighter or Crusader or White Raven Warblade.And looking at my own example I see that you could do either with a single class, if the 5e plug and play system even approaches the flexibility of the Book of 9 swords with some modules.I can only hope so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Honestly they could dial all the way back to 4 base classes fighter, wizard, cleric, thief, and then have all the other classes that have blossomed up since the basic set be resolved with a combination of theme choices and power set picks.A fighter who trades away feats for HP and rage is a barbarian. One who trades away HP for skills could be a ranger. One who multiclasses into Cleric can be a Paladin. (Or a Cleric can trade most of his spellcasting for better HP and fighting skills and be a Paladin. And both could be at the same table.)Likewise a Thief, a Bard, a Ninja or a Swordsage could all be a Rogue with different picks.Probably this is not what will happen, however.</blockquote>

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