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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5815054" data-attributes="member: 7006">It applies to all of them.&nbsp; Despite the idea of 'power source' making all the sense in the world, many players can't stand the idea of them.&nbsp; Which is why you see people saying things like they wished the swordmage and bard were just wizard builds, rather than actual classes.&nbsp; Some players want to be able to make their &quot;wizard&quot; good at swordfighting.&nbsp; The class name 'wizard' trumps the abilities of the swordmage (which for all intents and purposes *is* a wizard good at swordfighting).Now some of this has to do with the names of the powers (or 'spells'), in that the swordmage didn't get classic wizard spells, they got all kinds of new spells made up for the class.&nbsp; But believe it or not, WotC learned this lesson after the fact, which is why the bladesinger was made and which became a build of the wizard (rather than a build of the swordmage, which technically would have made more sense).&nbsp; It was made to give players what they wanted... a a weapon-using build for their *wizard* that got to use all the classic wizard spells.At this point I almost wish they would just go ahead and change all references of &quot;Martial power source&quot; to &quot;Fighter&quot;, all &quot;Divine power source&quot; to &quot;Cleric&quot;, and all &quot;Arcane power source&quot; to &quot;Wizard&quot;, and make all the classes that fall within them Themes for the three classes.&nbsp; Because that seems to be the only way to let people make the type of character they want with the name of the class they want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5815054, member: 7006"] It applies to all of them. Despite the idea of 'power source' making all the sense in the world, many players can't stand the idea of them. Which is why you see people saying things like they wished the swordmage and bard were just wizard builds, rather than actual classes. Some players want to be able to make their "wizard" good at swordfighting. The class name 'wizard' trumps the abilities of the swordmage (which for all intents and purposes *is* a wizard good at swordfighting). Now some of this has to do with the names of the powers (or 'spells'), in that the swordmage didn't get classic wizard spells, they got all kinds of new spells made up for the class. But believe it or not, WotC learned this lesson after the fact, which is why the bladesinger was made and which became a build of the wizard (rather than a build of the swordmage, which technically would have made more sense). It was made to give players what they wanted... a a weapon-using build for their *wizard* that got to use all the classic wizard spells. At this point I almost wish they would just go ahead and change all references of "Martial power source" to "Fighter", all "Divine power source" to "Cleric", and all "Arcane power source" to "Wizard", and make all the classes that fall within them Themes for the three classes. Because that seems to be the only way to let people make the type of character they want with the name of the class they want. [/QUOTE]

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