d20 Judge Dredd?
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trancejeremy
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Most comments I've heard are very positive. I don't have it, but I flipped through it at my local game store and was fairly impressed.
I think the Judge Class is overpowered. Rather than making it an uber class (IIRC, it gets a d12 for hit points, best BAB progression, all the saves are great), I don't see why they couldn't just start characters at higher levels than normal. Or give them higher stats.
Not that that is a big deal if you play Judge Dredd on it's own. But it could pose problems if you combine it with other d20 games.
I mean, say you want to do a Cthulhu cross-over. Classes from Fading Suns or Deadlands or Weird Wars or whatever are generally pretty much in line with Cthulhu monsters, since they are more or less baseline d20 classes. But not so with Judges. You could end up throwing the PC Judges up against too easy a monster if you just go by the CRs. (Again, hardly the end of the world, but it would require some fine tuning on your part).
I think the Judge Class is overpowered. Rather than making it an uber class (IIRC, it gets a d12 for hit points, best BAB progression, all the saves are great), I don't see why they couldn't just start characters at higher levels than normal. Or give them higher stats.
Not that that is a big deal if you play Judge Dredd on it's own. But it could pose problems if you combine it with other d20 games.
I mean, say you want to do a Cthulhu cross-over. Classes from Fading Suns or Deadlands or Weird Wars or whatever are generally pretty much in line with Cthulhu monsters, since they are more or less baseline d20 classes. But not so with Judges. You could end up throwing the PC Judges up against too easy a monster if you just go by the CRs. (Again, hardly the end of the world, but it would require some fine tuning on your part).
Selganor
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I might be wrong but Dredd d20 wasn't made to be used easily within other settings...
You MIGHT use all kinds of monsters from other sources in it's world (don't you love atomic mutations) but the setting itself is quite unique in it's feel and that is brought out by the extreme classes...
BTW: I wouldn't bother to worry about crossover problems...
After all, take a judge out of his environment and what do you get ? Someone who's a bit tougher than a normal fighter with better saves but a total ignorance of the world around him and (if it's something of a fantasy world) might not be able to use most of his euqipment there anyway...
So I wouldn't bother about the incompatibility.
Even IF you crossed this over you still had to make some judgement call about the different DV-System compared to the "usual" AC...
You MIGHT use all kinds of monsters from other sources in it's world (don't you love atomic mutations) but the setting itself is quite unique in it's feel and that is brought out by the extreme classes...
BTW: I wouldn't bother to worry about crossover problems...
After all, take a judge out of his environment and what do you get ? Someone who's a bit tougher than a normal fighter with better saves but a total ignorance of the world around him and (if it's something of a fantasy world) might not be able to use most of his euqipment there anyway...
So I wouldn't bother about the incompatibility.
Even IF you crossed this over you still had to make some judgement call about the different DV-System compared to the "usual" AC...
Hi guys,
You have pretty much knocked the nail on the head - Judge Dredd is intended to be a self-contained game, rather than one where you can immediatly port what you like all over the shop. That said, porting is not that difficult to achieve - take a look at the dinosaurs in the Creeps chapter, as they were included to demonstrate how to bring creatures from the Monster Manual into your games. No changes required, aside from DV, and that is a simple matter of looking up the Reflex save. As for game balance when porting stuff over, just run a few figures in your head - it is what Games Masters used to do
Judges were always meant to be tough, as we wanted to give players the type of character who could have a lot of grief thrown at them and still fight through. That said, once Citizen characters hit mid-level and beyond, the balance starts swinging the other way, as judges are, ultimately, limited. No new equipment for them, and only ever one prestige class. Citizens can buy all the gear they can afford and hop around classes like they are going out of fashion. Not to mention starting their own street gang.
I have seen one or two criticisms levelled at Dredd, and it is always about the Judge class and its portability. That ain't the point of it! That said, I thought we would always get more flak about using DV and Reflex instead of AC - I have heard absolutely nothing!
Each to their own, I guess - but we are always interested in pushing the d20 boat just that little further out and trying something new. . .
Hope all that waffle helps!
You have pretty much knocked the nail on the head - Judge Dredd is intended to be a self-contained game, rather than one where you can immediatly port what you like all over the shop. That said, porting is not that difficult to achieve - take a look at the dinosaurs in the Creeps chapter, as they were included to demonstrate how to bring creatures from the Monster Manual into your games. No changes required, aside from DV, and that is a simple matter of looking up the Reflex save. As for game balance when porting stuff over, just run a few figures in your head - it is what Games Masters used to do
Judges were always meant to be tough, as we wanted to give players the type of character who could have a lot of grief thrown at them and still fight through. That said, once Citizen characters hit mid-level and beyond, the balance starts swinging the other way, as judges are, ultimately, limited. No new equipment for them, and only ever one prestige class. Citizens can buy all the gear they can afford and hop around classes like they are going out of fashion. Not to mention starting their own street gang.
I have seen one or two criticisms levelled at Dredd, and it is always about the Judge class and its portability. That ain't the point of it! That said, I thought we would always get more flak about using DV and Reflex instead of AC - I have heard absolutely nothing!
Each to their own, I guess - but we are always interested in pushing the d20 boat just that little further out and trying something new. . .
Hope all that waffle helps!
The Slaine RPG is released next month (in fact, it goes to print on Monday!). As for the others, well, we'll just have to wait and see!
hellbender
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The Judge Dredd D20 is an outstanding game, and in addition to being used in its own right, it is handy for using as an aid to playing WH40K in a D20 environment. Judges can be either Marine Scouts or Adeptus Arbites. I am running a mini campaign with both ideas in addition to JD (and a regular old fantasy) and everything meshes seamlessly between JD and 40K (an irony, as Games Workshop used to produce the original JD rpg, and they produce the 40K miniatures game).
hellbender
hellbender
Maldur said:actually I think some parts of the book are direct copies from the old GW book( like the laws and sentences).
I really like it!!
and Im the biggest JD fan I know!
More likely those sections in the GW book and in this one are copies of something that appeared in the comic
Allen
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