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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3346976" data-attributes="member: 4275">Don't put words in my mouth <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Seriously though, I'm a "customer is always right" kind of guy. I won't stand up and tell people to want something they don't want. I was just pointing out what I have witnessed. As a GURPs-head (and a Hero guru before that) I ran into folks all the time proclaiming its tool-kit angle as an advantage over D&D.These days I run into people who bought d20M and dislike it because there isn't enough handholding. I make no value judgement on whose right, but the two games appear to have attracted a different set of customers with different expectations and acting like it isn't so doesn't help anyone. Actually, that too. And Star Frontiers. That's a further illustration of the phenomenon I'm talking about. I read threads asking for a full-fledged hardcover devoted to ALL the settings in d20F. If I cared enough about d20 Past I'd probably find the same sorts of threads about the campaign models there too. Well... at RPGO we've stuck our toe in the water supporting Blood and Relics a time or two. Heck, last year we did a Darwin's World adventure and a Blood and Relics adventure for Gen Con. But the truth is, support for B&Relics on the level we support Darwin's World isn't justified imo (last I checked we still have copies of the print run that we did um... a year ago? not an ideal situation) and its the same reason why I wouldn't recommend full-fledged support of Dark Matter were I running WOTC.Modern basically comes built-in with "Second Edition Syndrome": the market is fragmented into so many settings none of them can be supported and anyone who tried would lose money.Only settings that are very different from the modern world seem to have jumped that ramp thus far.</blockquote>

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