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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9584646" data-attributes="member: 725">Review numbers give some indication, looking at Amazon and DTRPG are probably two of the biggest indicators.No hostility. No, just sharing that alarms are going off. When famous people known for A, sell B which is received as mediocre at best, and now try to sell you C. And people are hyping it into the strato sphere, while:You should wait for the reviews after the game comes out.Blades in the Dark has a TON of third party support.Heck, for all I care people can play GURPS 1e! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> As long as they are having fun, who am I to stop them? BUT... When there is hype, when there's famous people behind a product, and when media (like ENworld) starts promoting something... Maybe some people should get off the hype train and wait and see before blindly charging ahead.And why can people here (on Enworld) crap all over D&D (5e), WotC, and that's all right. But when someone points out some issues with the product quality of your favorite publisher...There is no definitive number available, for all we know Ponyfinder is the most played RPG ever! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But there are indicators on how popular a system is by looking what data VTTs have. Foundry published some numbers from last year: <a href="https://foundryvtt.com/article/year-in-review-2024/" target="_blank">Year in Review: Four-Year Anniversary Edition | Foundry Virtual Tabletop</a> And Roll 20 did a few reports a couple of years ago: <a href="https://wiki.roll20.net/Orr_Industry_Report" target="_blank">Orr Industry Report - Roll20 Wiki</a> this is the latest report (Q4 2021) <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220228224451/https://blog.roll20.net/media/orrreport-2021-q4-long.pdf" target="_blank">Wayback Machine</a>There's also what are you weighing as a success? From a publishers point of view it's sales, they are a business after all. You might say that for players it's how often it's played. But for players it should be important how often they play it. How many of us have huge pnp RPG collections that we never get to the table (or not often enough)? I have stuff I enjoy that I never play... So I don't think there's a definitive answer of what 'success' exactly is for pnp RPGs.</blockquote>

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